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Some Bad desicions:


Shane Mosely 12u over De La Hoya II - in their 2nd fight, I thought this was a horrible desicion and that De La Hoya Cleat won tthe fight. I had it 115-112 for De la hoya but for some reason all three judges had it 115-113 mosely.

Jose Torres 15u over Eddie Cotton- I thought this was a bad desicion and that Cotton deserved to get the desicion and the title.

Vito Anterfuermo 15 D MArvin Hagler - I thought hagler was the agressor and dominated the fight. but the judgjes didnt seem to think so.

Michael Spinks 15s Larry Holmes II - I definetely though Larry won the 2nd of their two fights.

Sharkey 15s Schmelling- I had it Schmelling 10 rounds to 4- 1 even, and i really thought schmelling dominated and so did a lot of other people.

Felix Trinadad 12m Oscar De la Hoya- Ive watched this 5 times, and every single time I think De La Hoya dominated it even more. This fight did not live up to hype But De La HOya in rounds 1-9 showed he was the superior boxer. I could not believe jerry roth gave 3 of the first 4 rounds to Tito? De la hoya dominated the first 4 rounds. De la hoya landed over 120 more punches. De lay hoya gave away the last 3 rounds but he was so far ahead it didnt matter. I had it 7 rounds to 2 after nine, so my card ended up 7 rounds to 5 or 115-113.

Chavez D12 Whittaker- Another Robbery draw. Pernel whittaker got robbed of winning a fight he cleary dominated. i had it 116-112 whitaker. I watched it on classic fights and I could not believe it was called draw. Whittaker outboxed hi mand matched him with blows to the body. One of judges who scored it a draw was commened by Jose Shulamain for a job well done amd he became referee of Bruno- Lennox title fight after.

Lupe Pintor 15s Carlos Zarate- People might not know this one, but i saw it on classic fights. Zarate got totally robbed and lost his title because of this. two judges voted 143-142 for Pintor, while THE OTHER JUDGE HAD IT 145-133 ZARATE!!! the whole press had Zarate winning by 9 points. Zarate knocked Pintor down and i thought controlled the fight. I had it 10 rounds to 5 for Zarate.

Joe Lous 15s Jersey Joe Walcott- Walcott a 21-1 underdog, totally embarrased louis putting him down twice and making louis look liek the amatuer by outboxing him, but he began to back peddle in the late rounds and lost the fight. Walcott still i thought clearly won the fight I had it 9 rounds to 6 walcott. LOUIS HIMSELF THOUGHT HE LOST THE FIGHT.

Jimmy Ellis 15 Ref Floy Patterson- people forget this fight but Floyd was totally robbed because the fight was held in inngemar johannsens backyard. The ref called a slip when ellis went down but cleary it was a knockdown and patterson also broke ellis nose. Too bad the ref hates patterson for beating ingo.

Lewis D 12 Holyfeild 1 I had it 116-112 Lewis and i bet people has it worse. there was no way holyfield deserved a draw in this fight. This was one of the worst decisions ever.
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azumah nelson v jeff fenech 1
i dont know how the f*ck this fight was called a draw, if it went for two more rounds fenech would have knocked him out.
that fight was the top of the hill for fenech after that it was all downhill

Pernell Whittaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez - Draw

I bet on Pernell in this fight, he was robbed, even the guy who bet me insisted on paying me after the fight, it was just that obvious.

Roy Jones jr vs Sum Dum Fuk

In Korea, the Olympics, the most ridiculous decision of all time, giving the hometown Korean the decision, the punches landed totals were 100+ for Jones, and 0 for the Korean, just ridiculous.

Lennox Lewis vs Ray Mercer

Lewis got the decision, i'm convinced Mercer won this fight.

How did you get to se Sharkey v. Schmeling 2nd? Does a full fight version exist on film?

There has been some very bizar decisons in german rings lately.

Søren Woller

Agree - Fenech Vs Nelson I - Fenech clearly won this fight (without a doubt) -

Whitaker Vs DLH - De La Hoya got a gift here - Whitaker took this one -

Whitaker Vs Chavez - Draw - complete BW - Whitaker won 8 rounds at least -

Holyfiled Vs Lennox I & II - Lennox won the first fight and Evander clearly won the second (a clear post-prime Evander in both fights) -

The Hagler loss to Leonard was a fuckin joke! After that loss, Hagler never fought again.

BB a full version of Louis-Walcott 1 does not exist so I'm very interested how you got scored that fight 9-6 . . .

I thought Leonard won the fight. not all those punches were pitter patter junk.. he walloped hagler a couple times plus HE OUTSMARTED hagler and stole so many rounds with flurries. the man was a genuis and master boxer.

De La Hoya vs Mosely 2

I know htis isnt a fmous fight or controversial decision, but I really felt De LA Hoya got robbed in this fight. I don't know about you guys but I really was shocked when Shane MOsely was announced winner by UNANIMOUS decision 115-113 all. I had De La Hoya winning 115-113 and i remember foreman saying there shoul be an investigation into this decision. I thought De la Hoya ttally outboxed shane for 10 rounds than shane came back at the end. I feel DE LA Hoya was robbed more against Tito, but i thought he won this fight and its a shame cause he was ocming off a great win over vargas and would have faced winky next.

De La Hoyas only true lossses were Mosely in the 1st fight which i thought shane won, and hopkins. HE was ourright robbed against TITO.

Whittaker-Ramirez

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:De La Hoyas only true lossses were Mosely in the 1st fight which i thought shane won, and hopkins. HE was ourright robbed against TITO.

He has five true losses in my estimation. His first loss to Mosley and the loss to Hopkins were legitimate. I did have him slightly ahead in the Mosley rematch, and he plainly beat Tito even though he brought the loss on himself by not pissing a drop from the 10th round on.

On the other hand, I had him losing to Whitaker, Quartey and Sturm. Hell, I gave him a 10-7 12th round against Quartey and he still lost. How anyone scored that as a win for DLH is beyond me.

Jsl, I had the De La Hoya Quartey Fight scored 106-105 Quartey going into the 12th round and De La Hoya knocked him down giving him a 10-8 round. I scored it 10-8, I didnt think it was 10-7. So My card ended up 115-114 De La Hoya but Quartey definetly didnt cleary win the fight. It was an even and close fight and the De La Hoya knockdown in the 12 proved the difference. The funny thing is even if de la hoya hadnt knocked him down in thr 12th, he STILL would have won the fight because two of the judges had him ahead going into the 12th.

I thought he beat Whitaker though he was knocked down in the fight. suprisingly, the scorecard werent even close. De Lay Hoya won the fight by a wide margin like 116-111 on all three cards.
I had the sturm fight a draw. That was the worst fight of oscars career.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:The funny thing is even if de la hoya hadnt knocked him down in thr 12th, he STILL would have won the fight because two of the judges had him ahead going into the 12th.

Those two judges had DLH winning eight rounds. They had either smoked something not meant to be smoked in nature, or they were on Oscar's payroll.

A lot of the rounds were close, but Quartey was winning them. I had it 107-102 Quartey after 11 rounds, meaning the only way Oscar was going to win was to knock him out. Even with my somewhat generous 10-7, it was 114-112.

The Whitaker fight was a setup. He would have had to knock Oscar out to get a draw. But I can see a difference of opinion here. Whitaker's fights are hard to score because of his style.

I thought the Sturm fight was easy to score myself. Most people who weren't on the DLH payroll had the same scorecard: 115-113 for Sturm.

Whitaker clearly beat De la Hoya - That was such a BS decision - Hell Whitaker was the CHAMPION in the fight and still got robbed (if memory serves me right).

No way did De La Hoya take the belt that night - I had Whitaker winning by 3 pts easy -

Ok I though De La Hoya won the whitaker fight though it was closer than the scores indicated. However to say whitaker won the fight easy is bullshit and it shows u dont know how to score a fight or that u wanted whitaker to win.

U guys notice Whittakers name is all over this thread...He very well could of retired with only 1 loss (trinny) on his record. The guy was a boxing genuis!

I thought it was pretty clear that Castillo beat Mayweather in the first of their two bouts. Also, I feel it was pretty obvious that Sturm beat De La Hoya.

Both were close, but I still think the wrong person won in both fights.

Ok First of all, Mayweather won both fights vs Jose Luis Castillo. I had the first fight scored 116-113 Floyd Mayweather. Castillo gave him his toughest fight but still didnt win.

Also, Pernell whitaker did not beat Oscar De La hoya. I had it scored 115-112 De la Hoya. Pernell did not him down but i thought Oscar outworked him and pernell gave some rounds away clowning around. Oscar won the fight.

DID ANYONE SEE THE ROY JONES VS PARK FIGHT IN THE OLYMPIN FINALS IN KOREA IN 1992??
i HEARD THAT WAS THE WORST DECISION EVER AND THAT BOXING ALMSOT GOT THROWN OUT OF THE OYMPICS BECAUSE OF THAT FIGHT. CAN U TELL ME WHAT U THOUGHT OF THAT FIGHT??? DID JONES CLEARY DOMINATE HIM????

I think it would be say that the Korean dude didnt win a round..he was dominated!!! That my friend was the worst decison ever!!!

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:Ok First of all, Mayweather won both fights vs Jose Luis Castillo. I had the first fight scored 116-113 Floyd Mayweather. Castillo gave him his toughest fight but still didnt win.

Also, Pernell whitaker did not beat Oscar De La hoya. I had it scored 115-112 De la Hoya. Pernell did not him down but i thought Oscar outworked him and pernell gave some rounds away clowning around. Oscar won the fight.

DID ANYONE SEE THE ROY JONES VS PARK FIGHT IN THE OLYMPIN FINALS IN KOREA IN 1992??
i HEARD THAT WAS THE WORST DECISION EVER AND THAT BOXING ALMSOT GOT THROWN OUT OF THE OYMPICS BECAUSE OF THAT FIGHT. CAN U TELL ME WHAT U THOUGHT OF THAT FIGHT??? DID JONES CLEARY DOMINATE HIM????

The FMJ-Castillo and DLH-Whitaker fights are matters of opinion. I'm not biased against DLH; I agree he won the Trinidad and Mosley II fights. But Whitaker and Sturm were fixed beforehand. The only way the Golden Boy was going to lose those fights would have been to be knocked out. And to be honest, I feel the same way about Quartey. Two of those judges were plainly not watching the fight.

The RJJ-Park Si Hun fight was the 156-pound final in the 1988 Olympics, not 1992. One objective punch counter had RJJ outlanding him 86-38. There's no way that the Korean won--the decision was probably even worse that what you may have heard. Park looked like he'd been beaten half to death, and he was in borderline shock when he was announced as the winner. There's plenty of evidence that the fix was on--the East German Stasi had a dossier on fixed Olympic matches in the '88 Olympics and that was one of them. Unfortunately, the IOC still refuses to do right by RJJ and award him a gold medal--which I think is more political than anything else.

Ok first of all, the whiteraker-de la hoya fight was not a fix. The judges may have leaned toward de la hoya in the sturm fight because they wanted him to face hopkins.

THE OSCAR DE LAY HOYA - IKE QUARTEY FIGHR WAS LEGIT. I THOUGHT OSCAR WON THE FIGHT AND SO DID A LOT OF OTHER EXPERTS SO U MUST HAVE BEEN BIASED FOR QUARTEY OR U WERE WATCHING ANOTHER FIGHT. MOST PEOPLE HAD IT EVEN GOING INTO THE TWELFTH, AND DE LA HOYA KNOCKED HIM DOWN WHICH GAVE HIM THE DECISION. THERE WERE A LOT OF CLOSE ROUNDS AND COULD HAVE GONE EITHER WAY.

Paulie Ayala - Hugo Dianzo. Dianzo gave a beating him and in addition, Ayala down in 11th round. And judges give it to Ayala

Hearns-Leonard II was not a draw. Hearns won that fight and I think Leonard has even admitted that himself.

Really think if Hearns had a chin, he'd be high on many people's all-time greatest lists.

blockbuster your a moron if you think leonard beat hagler. I thought we were talking about boxing not a dance compitition? Its pretty sad that every boxing fan ive ever talked to thinks hagler won but you -you genius
thinks leonard put the crackpipe down!