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Wilfredo Gomez; How did you see him
Posted: 01 Jun 2005, 18:13
by tiredoldngrey
I saw several of his fights as they happened but the only one I remembered was that against Pintor, so I went and got tapes of half a dozen of his bouts. I had read so much about how great Gomez was that the tapes left me confused. Very very dirty fighter. Seems easy to hit and hurt and loses his legs at the drop of a hat... and that's the rub. When hurt he gets dangerous. Against Pintor, no legs from rd4 and suddenly in the 14th he switches to the left hook- been rh haoppy-and this move he'd tried several times worked and 8 punches or so later it was over. Overall I wasn't impressed by anything other than his ability to ko people that have just knocked him senseless. Am I missing something, should I see other fights of his? What did you think of him?
Re: Wilfredo Gomez; How did you see him
Posted: 01 Jun 2005, 19:29
by ferocity
tiredoldngrey wrote:I saw several of his fights as they happened but the only one I remembered was that against Pintor, so I went and got tapes of half a dozen of his bouts. I had read so much about how great Gomez was that the tapes left me confused. Very very dirty fighter. Seems easy to hit and hurt and loses his legs at the drop of a hat... and that's the rub. When hurt he gets dangerous. Against Pintor, no legs from rd4 and suddenly in the 14th he switches to the left hook- been rh haoppy-and this move he'd tried several times worked and 8 punches or so later it was over. Overall I wasn't impressed by anything other than his ability to ko people that have just knocked him senseless. Am I missing something, should I see other fights of his? What did you think of him?
I've only seen him in two fights. One against the great Salvador Sanchez and against a very good fighter in Lupe Pintor -who I don't know much about.
In his fight with Sanchez, Sanchez was just to strong and skilled.
In his fight with Pintor I thought it showed the greatness of Wilfredo Gomez. His right hand is awsome and very fast, and does not telegraph his right hand which is rare in these days - not to many fighters can hide the right hand and Gomez could.
Which other fights do you have of Gomez?
Posted: 02 Jun 2005, 22:45
by ferocity
Somebody else can give insight into the fighter Gomez was? Any info?
Posted: 03 Jun 2005, 15:15
by tiredoldngrey
I hav tape of him against- this is from memory, pardon my spelling- Royal Kobayashi, Pintor, a former US Olympian and Ray Leonard protege, can"t recall the name, and one other. In the fight with Leonard's protege, Gomez scores 7kds but I swear that it seems that what got the other guy in trouble was a right he landed flush on Gomez. I know there has to be a counter in there but I can't find it. (but I know what I'll be watching this evening) I have seen a majority of Pintor's fights, on tape, television, or live, and every time I see him vs. Gomez I bet he wishes he could do that one over, so he could press Gomez more, not let him punch so freely. It appears that Wilfredo had no legs after some hard body blows in rd. 4 yet he kept punching, apparently with impact because Pintor wasn't at all shy about telling you "Time's Up" Has anybody seen Gomez v. Zarate?
Posted: 03 Jun 2005, 15:45
by ferocity
The Pintor - Gomez fight was awsome both fighters had their moments.
I never have seen Gomez v. Zarate but this fight is legendary, they say it was a war while it lasted.
Didn't Duran also fight Royal Kobayashi?
Posted: 04 Jun 2005, 02:03
by dws
Gomez v. Zarate was actually pretty boring for the first 3 rounds,neither fighter wanting to expose himself to a bomb from the other with Zarate being the aggressor and Gomez boxing until the 4th when Gomez hurt Zarate badly with a left hook.Gomez was a dirty bastard who continued to hit Zarate after the bell in the 4th and while Zarate was down in the 5th.Zarate was up when his corner stopped it but he WAS badly hurt,I would've let it go on but Gomez was a fantastic finisher.Gomez was the kind of fighter you cheered against but it rarely did any good.The fight with Pintor proved his greatness,against a major league tough,iron chinned,hard hitting body puncher,he got the hell beat out of him yet in the 14th he finished Pintor brutally.Those of you who only saw Gomez against Sanchez or his later bouts at 130 didn't get the real Gomez,he was phenomenal at 122,a very good boxer with brutal power and the killer instinct to use it,he also didn't mind throwing a few hundred low blows per fight to soften you up.He always had trouble making weight and peaked at around 26 yrs of age but he was the best at 122 ever.
Posted: 04 Jun 2005, 16:34
by meade95
Gomez was definitely at his best at 122 - His chin wasn't the best (he could be hurt) - but it definitely wasn't glass either in that no body was stopping him and he had very good recouperative powers (da*m good!).
I would have loved to see a Gomez Vs Fenech at 122 (with both guys in their primes) - That would have been a war!
Posted: 11 Jun 2005, 10:23
by tiredoldngrey
I saw Gomez at 130, so when I went tape hunting I concentrated on his career at 122. From what I've read over the last few days even his time at that weight was sharply divided. Apparently he began as a skilled counterpuncher- make his foe miss then chill 'em, like Rosario at 19. Then he decided to dispense with the make 'em miss part and the training involved and just go straight to "chill 'em". Is this true? At 122 he seemed easy to hurt, and his legs would abandon him but he kept his feet and got dangerous. Probably I need to find the earliest fights available? Him and Fenech? Wow. Fenech wins at 126, 130 but at 122...One thing for sure, the referee would earn his wages!