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Wayne Alexander - is someone taking the piss??????
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:06
by knockout
Wayne is one of the most exciting fighters in the UK if not Europe.... he hits hard, shows signs of vunerability.. always looking for the knockout....
However his last fight, a great fight on paper versus Bladt was put on first on Saturday night , in front of an empty arena.... so Wayne fought with no atmosphere and the crowd missed a great fight... as there were only three competitive fights on the show it would have made sense to have wayne on a little later in the show.
And why was it a 8 rounder? wayne is the WBU champ, i am sure he would have liked to defend that title....
Before that in december he fought Mellis, good to get revenge but i am sure a title defence would have been more appreciated.......
Before that Takaloo.....a fight Wayne really wanted but also one where he could have easily lost (he was underdog) and been sent into obscurity.... a no lose situation as neither Wayne or Takaloo get any love
before that another first fight on the bill show versus howard clarke....
someone definately isnt flavour of the month....
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:09
by mickeybeard
And what's happened to Tak recently? Be a shame if he packed it in. He's never going to set the world on fire, but he was on top in the Alexander fight (IMO) until he got sloppy.
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:09
by Gary_V
I would like to see him get a shot at a top-10 world contender.
He may get beaten around for 6-7 rounds but that bloody get out of jail power could take out anyone.
He's starting to remind me a tad of Carl Thompson, though perhaps a level or two below Thompson's class.
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:11
by knockout
mickeybeard wrote:And what's happened to Tak recently? Be a shame if he packed it in. He's never going to set the world on fire, but he was on top in the Alexander fight (IMO) until he got sloppy.
takaloo has the same problem...
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:12
by Kilburn
Alexander certainly isn't going to appreciate Jim Watts' commentary for the Bladt fight when he gets the tape, that's for sure.
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:15
by JimStone
knockout wrote:mickeybeard wrote:And what's happened to Tak recently? Be a shame if he packed it in. He's never going to set the world on fire, but he was on top in the Alexander fight (IMO) until he got sloppy.
takaloo has the same problem...
What's your theory, mate?
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:16
by knockout
Kilburn wrote:Alexander certainly isn't going to appreciate Jim Watts' commentary for the Bladt fight when he gets the tape, that's for sure.
i am sure he isnt..... but Wayne is wayne... he is never gonna be Willy Pep.. then again Bladt is a much better fighter than he was given credit for before the fight
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:16
by jamesmcdonnell
Gary_V wrote:I would like to see him get a shot at a top-10 world contender.
He may get beaten around for 6-7 rounds but that bloody get out of jail power could take out anyone.
He's starting to remind me a tad of Carl Thompson, though perhaps a level or two below Thompson's class.
Think Thompson definetly has a better chin too. He has awful balance, but the shots he took of Haye proved he's got no china in there, only one man ever really knocked him out and that was Seller's, a mean mean puncher.
Alexander always looks vulnerable, he's more like Nigel Benn for me, except he hasn't got the sustained intensity nor quite the willpower.
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:17
by knockout
FlawedGenius wrote:knockout wrote:mickeybeard wrote:And what's happened to Tak recently? Be a shame if he packed it in. He's never going to set the world on fire, but he was on top in the Alexander fight (IMO) until he got sloppy.
takaloo has the same problem...
What's your theory, mate?
no theory... just promoters have thier favourites.....
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:17
by nickd
The theory is neither sells enough tickets.... and Warren doesnt have as much faith in them as some of his other charges....
i.e. Barnes who is overrated to the max.
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:19
by knockout
nickd wrote:The theory is neither sells enough tickets.... and Warren doesnt have as much faith in them as some of his other charges....
i.e. Barnes who is overrated to the max.
of course Wayne isnt in the league of Hatton and farnell but he sells decent tickets.... York hall was rammed for his EBU fight and the Takaloo fight and the Samuels fight was pretty big too.....
Re: Wayne Alexander - is someone taking the piss??????
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:20
by KO Artist
knockout wrote:Wayne is one of the most exciting fighters in the UK if not Europe.... he hits hard, shows signs of vunerability.. always looking for the knockout....
However his last fight, a great fight on paper versus Bladt was put on first on Saturday night , in front of an empty arena.... so Wayne fought with no atmosphere and the crowd missed a great fight... as there were only three competitive fights on the show it would have made sense to have wayne on a little later in the show.
And why was it a 8 rounder? wayne is the WBU champ, i am sure he would have liked to defend that title....
Before that in december he fought Mellis, good to get revenge but i am sure a title defence would have been more appreciated.......
Before that Takaloo.....a fight Wayne really wanted but also one where he could have easily lost (he was underdog) and been sent into obscurity.... a no lose situation as neither Wayne or Takaloo get any love
before that another first fight on the bill show versus howard clarke....
someone definately isnt flavour of the month....
Much as I like Wayne, he is never gonna sell any tickets in Manchester, regardless of what time he goes on.
He should be fighting at York Hall
Re: Wayne Alexander - is someone taking the piss??????
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:21
by knockout
KO Atrist wrote:knockout wrote:Wayne is one of the most exciting fighters in the UK if not Europe.... he hits hard, shows signs of vunerability.. always looking for the knockout....
However his last fight, a great fight on paper versus Bladt was put on first on Saturday night , in front of an empty arena.... so Wayne fought with no atmosphere and the crowd missed a great fight... as there were only three competitive fights on the show it would have made sense to have wayne on a little later in the show.
And why was it a 8 rounder? wayne is the WBU champ, i am sure he would have liked to defend that title....
Before that in december he fought Mellis, good to get revenge but i am sure a title defence would have been more appreciated.......
Before that Takaloo.....a fight Wayne really wanted but also one where he could have easily lost (he was underdog) and been sent into obscurity.... a no lose situation as neither Wayne or Takaloo get any love
before that another first fight on the bill show versus howard clarke....
someone definately isnt flavour of the month....
Much as I like Wayne, he is never gonna sell any tickets in Manchester, regardless of what time he goes on.
He should be fighting at York Hall
he would be the first to agree i am sure
Re: Wayne Alexander - is someone taking the piss??????
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:23
by nickd
knockout wrote:KO Atrist wrote:knockout wrote:Wayne is one of the most exciting fighters in the UK if not Europe.... he hits hard, shows signs of vunerability.. always looking for the knockout....
However his last fight, a great fight on paper versus Bladt was put on first on Saturday night , in front of an empty arena.... so Wayne fought with no atmosphere and the crowd missed a great fight... as there were only three competitive fights on the show it would have made sense to have wayne on a little later in the show.
And why was it a 8 rounder? wayne is the WBU champ, i am sure he would have liked to defend that title....
Before that in december he fought Mellis, good to get revenge but i am sure a title defence would have been more appreciated.......
Before that Takaloo.....a fight Wayne really wanted but also one where he could have easily lost (he was underdog) and been sent into obscurity.... a no lose situation as neither Wayne or Takaloo get any love
before that another first fight on the bill show versus howard clarke....
someone definately isnt flavour of the month....
Much as I like Wayne, he is never gonna sell any tickets in Manchester, regardless of what time he goes on.
He should be fighting at York Hall
he would be the first to agree i am sure
Well now the York Hall is back in use I'm sure we'll see him fighting there.
I'll be there when it happens.
Re: Wayne Alexander - is someone taking the piss??????
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:29
by JimStone
KO Atrist wrote:Much as I like Wayne, he is never gonna sell any tickets in Manchester, regardless of what time he goes on.
He should be fighting at York Hall
Agreed.
Re: Wayne Alexander - is someone taking the piss??????
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:34
by knockout
FlawedGenius wrote:KO Atrist wrote:Much as I like Wayne, he is never gonna sell any tickets in Manchester, regardless of what time he goes on.
He should be fighting at York Hall
Agreed.
i think we all agree on that, which is essentially part of the point i was trying to make..... why wasnt he on a london show???
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 08:42
by JimStone
It probably boils down to Frank allegedly falling out with SKY. It's not worth it for him to try and put big shows on Friday nights. People just don't want to be hassled going to the fights after work. They'd rather just go out to pub/clubs at 2100.
When he gets on ITV, I think we'll see more London shows again.
Posted: 07 Jun 2005, 12:52
by THEBUTCH
knockout, I 100% share your disappointment in how Wayne's career has been handled.
I think, amazingly, some people just don't get what Wayne's contribution to boxing is all about. :x For me Wayne probably provides the most unadulterated heart stopping action on the British scene (THIS IS JUST MY OPINION, IT'S NOT AN INVITATION TO COME UP WITH ALTERNATIVES).
Handled correctly he had the potential to to be almost as big a draw as Nigel Benn, in my opinion. It will always make me laugh when I think of the time when Farnell was Harry Simon's number 1 contender (or close to it) when Wayne was hauled in at 24 HOURS NOTICE to take on Simon. Farnell boxed a soft touch on the very same show. And what an effort that was from Wayne.
Nethertheless I'm often left exasperated at how things work out for Alexander.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 05:10
by J
agree with you guys on this. realy shame i just hope Wayne can get a decent shot and some good money for himslef and his family in the twilight of his career.

Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 07:19
by Zhuge
Whatever happened to Alexander fighting McDonagh?
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 07:31
by nickd
I cant remember why that didnt happen exactly, McDonagh being protected more than likely.
Alexander would knock him into next week.
When are they going to step it up with McDonagh? He's 26-0-2 and still not even fought for a British title. Ridiculous.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 21:56
by Zhuge
nickd wrote:I cant remember why that didnt happen exactly, McDonagh being protected more than likely.
Alexander would knock him into next week.
When are they going to step it up with McDonagh? He's 26-0-2 and still not even fought for a British title. Ridiculous.
Very strange -- I think he could take out Alexander as long as he doesn't come in doubting himself.
Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 03:44
by nickd
Zhuge wrote:nickd wrote:I cant remember why that didnt happen exactly, McDonagh being protected more than likely.
Alexander would knock him into next week.
When are they going to step it up with McDonagh? He's 26-0-2 and still not even fought for a British title. Ridiculous.
Very strange -- I think he could take out Alexander as long as he doesn't come in doubting himself.
I'm not so sure, he really does lack concentration bigtime sometimes. I have a feeling Alexander would land one shot and KO him.
Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 04:17
by Southpaw Stylist
He could maybe box Alexander to nonsense, but Alexander has good experience.
Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 05:34
by Manos de Oro
Would like to see McDonagh take on Wayne. He needs the opponent to take the fight to him (props to Barrie Lee for doing so on Friday), before he fights himself. All too happy to coast and clown. Wayne would certainly keep him on his toes, or else it would be lights out.
