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hatton should NOT fight corrales
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 02:06
by pasty_spud
he brings nothing to the table....and it'll prove nothing
how about a super unification event
imagine this....
HATTON (IBF) v COTTO (WBO)
LACY (IBF) v CALZAGHE (WBO)
MARQUEZ (IBF) v HARRISON (WBO)
AND 70,000 fans indoors at the millennium stadium in cardiff...
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 04:59
by Max Molyneux
Marquez has the WBA too.

Re: hatton should NOT fight corrales
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 05:15
by knockout
pasty_spud wrote:he brings nothing to the table....and it'll prove nothing
how about a super unification event
imagine this....
HATTON (IBF) v COTTO (WBO)
LACY (IBF) v CALZAGHE (WBO)
MARQUEZ (IBF) v HARRISON (WBO)
AND 70,000 fans indoors at the millennium stadium in cardiff...
could SN afford it?? you saw the quality of the card that propped up Hatton v Tszyu....
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 05:35
by Coconut
Hatton could sell out Maine Road on his own, regardless of undercard. Calzaghe could do 30,000 seats in Cardiff no worries for lacy. Harrison could get bums on seats in Glasgow for a decent match.
From a PoV of maximising a fan base, it doesn't make a lot of sense to put these fights together. That said, if it happens I think we're looking at some damn expensive tickets and a $30 pay per view. Plus there's the hiring of only one venue, albeit a pricy one.
Corrales does bring a reputation to the table and with Hatton it seems that beating the Man was more important than the IBF belt. Who's bothered about the belts he didn't win...
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 06:00
by Smit
A fight with Corrales will prove nothing at all.
If Hatton won then he'd get no credit for it, instead people would say Corrales should never have been fighting at 140.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 07:21
by nickd
I would happily pay £30 to see that trio, but they'd never put all three of them on the same bill. Would work out better value for money than the weekend, much as the main event was worth the £15 alone the undercard was the worst I can ever remember on a big show like that. Can anyone remember worse? I really cannot. It was an absolute shambles.
Think about it though, the arena sold out in quick time with Hatton v Tszyu alone announced. So was Allegedly ever going to put quality fights under it? Was he hell. That's whats so wrong with his attitude to the sport. Yes he devliered the big fight but he insulted everybody who paid PPV or for tickets with the shambolic undercard.
Only when the main fighter cannot sell the PPV/tickets alone do we get quality undercards.
That is exactly what has ruined the game in this country over the last few years and we all know who's mainly at fault for that.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 07:42
by jamesmcdonnell
A fight with Corralles would be absolutely huge, you're talking about a major international PPV. It doesn't matter what it proves, what did Ward Gatti III prove? Hatton is a big ticket seller, Corralles increasingly so, and he's just taken part in one of the best fights of all time.
I reckon both men might wait a couple of fights before making it happen, and then they cash in their chips. Nice voluntary or two for Hatton, a couple of tune ups at LW for Corralles.
I think Hatton would give Corralles murders, he'd be so much stronger, but Corralles power might be able to trouble Hatton, after all, Tszyu wasn't throwing a lot of leather in there. Hard for fighters to get leverage on their shots against Hatton though, as they are always on the back foot with no space.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 11:27
by steve689
I can't understand why Patsy suggests Corrales brings nothing to the table, fair enough he doesn't own a meaningless strap for Hatton to win but in terms of excitement, talent and courage Corrales can bring it all. Imagine how good it could be when these two collide head on, it would be a war. As James pointed out, a couple of defences for Hatton and a couple of tune ups at the higher weight for Diego and this could sell out the MEN, Showtime would certainly want it and it would be a good PPV, show Corrales-Castillo a couple of times and that would would surely be enough to convince the casual fan it's a good matchup.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 12:13
by Jamie Sanigar
Corales brings nothing to the table....and it'll prove nothing
Calzaghe v Lacy would attract 30,000 in Cardiff
I think the hot weather must be getting to some people.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 12:20
by pasty_spud
who you calling patsy???
anyway...ricky's next fight will be his 40th,beating corrales will win him nothing,unless it's a war,then he'll be a warrior.but we know he is already. he needs belts and titles. ley corrales have a few fights a the weight first.
and as far SN affording it...just say the AVERAGE price of a ticket was 50 quid.50 times 77,500 (72,500 seats in the stands and 5,000 on the floor) = 38,750,000 quid

a hell of a lot of money
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 12:36
by tonyevs
[quote="Jamie Sanigar"]
Calzaghe v Lacy would attract 30,000 in Cardiff
quote]
Yeah, he struggles to fill the Icerink
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 12:39
by Loynesy
Pasty
I hope your potatoes are better than your maths - one too many zeros mate
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 12:45
by Coconut
tonyevs wrote:Jamie Sanigar wrote:
Calzaghe v Lacy would attract 30,000 in Cardiff
quote]
Yeah, he struggles to fill the Icerink
Well, perhaps that was over-egging it a bit but to see Calzaghe in his biggest match for a long time there'd be a fair few going. No-one gives a rat's ass about Mger Mkrtchyan but Lacy could generate genuine hype. I'd make the trip for that one, and it takes some doing to get me to go to Wales.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 13:14
by pasty_spud
Loynesy wrote:Pasty
I hope your potatoes are better than your maths - one too many zeros mate
lol....bloody abacus
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 13:28
by lvlarc
Coconut wrote:tonyevs wrote:Jamie Sanigar wrote:
Calzaghe v Lacy would attract 30,000 in Cardiff
quote]
Yeah, he struggles to fill the Icerink
Well, perhaps that was over-egging it a bit but to see Calzaghe in his biggest match for a long time there'd be a fair few going. No-one gives a rat's ass about Mger Mkrtchyan but Lacy could generate genuine hype. I'd make the trip for that one, and it takes some doing to get me to go to Wales.
lmao you cheeky git

Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 13:49
by tonyevs
Coconut wrote:tonyevs wrote:Jamie Sanigar wrote:
Calzaghe v Lacy would attract 30,000 in Cardiff
quote]
Yeah, he struggles to fill the Icerink
Well, perhaps that was over-egging it a bit but to see Calzaghe in his biggest match for a long time there'd be a fair few going. No-one gives a rat's ass about Mger Mkrtchyan but Lacy could generate genuine hype. I'd make the trip for that one, and it takes some doing to get me to go to Wales.
Normally a match as this would sell...but with Calzaghe pulling out so often who would feel safe buying a ticket in the first place

Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 13:56
by nickd
tonyevs wrote:Coconut wrote:tonyevs wrote:
Well, perhaps that was over-egging it a bit but to see Calzaghe in his biggest match for a long time there'd be a fair few going. No-one gives a rat's ass about Mger Mkrtchyan but Lacy could generate genuine hype. I'd make the trip for that one, and it takes some doing to get me to go to Wales.
Normally a match as this would sell...but with Calzaghe pulling out so often who would feel safe buying a ticket in the first place

Exactly. I'd only buy a ticket for a Sicknote card if there was a quality undercard - i.e. Hatton v Corrales.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 16:05
by Bard of Boxrec
diego corrales is totally unproven at light welterweight.
This is why hatton shouldnt fight him, IMO.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 17:55
by darkstar81
jamesmcdonnell wrote:A fight with Corralles would be absolutely huge, you're talking about a major international PPV. It doesn't matter what it proves, what did Ward Gatti III prove? Hatton is a big ticket seller, Corralles increasingly so, and he's just taken part in one of the best fights of all time.
I reckon both men might wait a couple of fights before making it happen, and then they cash in their chips. Nice voluntary or two for Hatton, a couple of tune ups at LW for Corralles.
I think Hatton would give Corralles murders, he'd be so much stronger, but Corralles power might be able to trouble Hatton, after all, Tszyu wasn't throwing a lot of leather in there. Hard for fighters to get leverage on their shots against Hatton though, as they are always on the back foot with no space.
exactly right. this fight would be for the ££££££ but also its two big names together and i think hatton wins easy
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 18:06
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Riddick Blowe wrote:diego corrales is totally unproven at light welterweight.
This is why hatton shouldnt fight him, IMO.
Well Corrales is 146-147 come fight night, Castillo the same so that fight was really at LWW. Castillo also gave Mayweather hell who could be the best at 140 so Corrales is proven at 140 for my money
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 18:08
by Southpaw Stylist
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:diego corrales is totally unproven at light welterweight.
This is why hatton shouldnt fight him, IMO.
Well Corrales is 146-147 come fight night, Castillo the same so that fight was really at LWW. Castillo also gave Mayweather hell who could be the best at 140 so Corrales is proven at 140 for my money
Well using your example, Hatton and Cotto are proven at 154 then.
Posted: 08 Jun 2005, 18:25
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Southpaw Stylist wrote:Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:diego corrales is totally unproven at light welterweight.
This is why hatton shouldnt fight him, IMO.
Well Corrales is 146-147 come fight night, Castillo the same so that fight was really at LWW. Castillo also gave Mayweather hell who could be the best at 140 so Corrales is proven at 140 for my money
Well using your example, Hatton and Cotto are proven at 154 then.
Hattons 146-147 fight night (against Zoo) and neither him or Cotto have fought guys who've gone up to supposedly be best at WW or LMW. However bigger guys find it easier going up in wieght - fact
Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 02:07
by pasty_spud
it's aload of shite what they weight come fight night......someone said cotto came into the ring for his last fight somewhere around 160lbs.. so is cotto a proven middleweight??
no is he fornicate.cos it's all water
Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 02:30
by Goz
I think Corrales is a great fight for Hatton. A future hall-of-famer out of his depth weight-wise and quite possibly ready to go looking at the battering he took last time out.
Posted: 09 Jun 2005, 09:01
by Bard of Boxrec
Southpaw Stylist wrote:Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:diego corrales is totally unproven at light welterweight.
This is why hatton shouldnt fight him, IMO.
Well Corrales is 146-147 come fight night, Castillo the same so that fight was really at LWW. Castillo also gave Mayweather hell who could be the best at 140 so Corrales is proven at 140 for my money
I meant Corrales hasn't beaten any ranked light welterweights so doesn't deserve his shot.