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Posted: 07 Jan 2002, 13:06
by overhand_right
anyone got any info on mr snipes these days?

i know he still lives in ny, but thats it. anyone know anything?

the boogieman, same thing.

Posted: 07 Jan 2002, 20:40
by Ridiculous_Ray
ah man, im glad jesse is gone away, what big name heavyweight of the early 90's did he not fight and lose to? im glad he is gone and feel sorry for the sap who takes his punching bag title.

Posted: 07 Jan 2002, 20:45
by 6 Pack
Jesse Ferguson had the punching bag title? The "Boogie man" beat Buster Douglas, Ray Mercer, Obed Sullivan and plenty of other undefeated prospects in his day who were trying to pad thier records. I suggest you take a look at his record and see some of the guys he has beaten and some of the guys he has fought and lost to. He was no punching bag. Even in his 40's he was dangerous for any prospect on his way up.

Posted: 08 Jan 2002, 05:20
by Ridiculous_Ray
ok you told me to re check his record, and it proves my point, granted he wasnt the youngest when he fought and lost to golata but thats gotta huhrt....i liked golata i thought he was a good guy to gauge just how good others were and are so no disrespect for losing to him but nobody who is good or great loses to him.

the reason i give him the title of puching bag are because of the followng losses: rahman, stewart, holmes, bruno, mercer, bowe, tubs, DOKES?!,seldon, mccall, norris?!, smith, tyson...name one big name he beat except for ray mercer? obed sullivan? the guy was no more than a punching bag plain and simple, he was used to gauge how good others were

Posted: 08 Jan 2002, 14:57
by overhand_right
RAY, you have not seen any of these fights mate so you don't know what you're talking about i'm afraid.

through his career jesse ferguson could never get a break. he was always on the wrong side of the split decision, fighting in someone elses hometown with their own judges.

if you'd ever seen any of the fights you'd mentioned youd know that. oliver mccall got beat from pillar to post by the boogieman. his cement chin got hurt several times too.

ray mercer lost to jesse, and in the rematch got another hammering. a REAL hammering, worse than what holyfield gave him, as it was one sided. but ray was fighting on homeground and got the decsion that was necessary to keep his career alive. rays own crowd booed the decision.

jesse beat up michael dokes all night yet got robbed, because he was up against a former world champ. dokes own crowd booed the decsion.

holmes, ditto. they even reported this robbery in the new york times. ferguson made larry look horrible. in the 2nd round he had larry FALLING AROUND THE RING from ONE punch. jesse outhustled larry real good all night and holmes knew he didnt deserve the decision. the crowd booed him.

alex stewart got knocked down twice by jesse, and lost clearly, but EVEN he got the decision.

no wonder jesse quit with injuries against seldon, nicholson and jeremy williams. he quite understandably didnt feel he could win.

so in effect jesse, in his career, shouldve been remembered for wins over buster douglas, larry holmes, ray mercer twice, michael dokes, oliver mccall, orlin norris, obed sullivan and many others.

rahman couldnt KO jesse. oh and by the way mate, against golota jesse came in on less than a weeks notice to fight golota, and still made him look bad AND went the distance, even in his 40s.

so please mate, do some research first next time you want to dismiss a warrior like jesse ferguson and his lifes work. not all boxers get pampered and protected like john ruiz and mike tyson.

Posted: 08 Jan 2002, 15:15
by Ridiculous__Ray
i know more about the boogieman than you can dream of.
overhand_right you are clearly a SHE-MALE, who fondles a tit while wank-ing merrily.
check Ferguson's record and come back when you learn something.

Posted: 08 Jan 2002, 16:41
by overhand_right
okay ray, we were talking about boxing, now youre accusing me of being a transvestite or something? try behave like an adult, assuming you are one.

listen, read what i posted about jesse. everything i say is true. i have followed boxing for many years and have seen all of jesses important fights.

jesse ferguson was a dangerous contender, but people like yourself who judge a fighter purely on what they see on their record rather than what they have seen with their own eyes would look at ritchie melitos and peter mccneeleys record and think of them as legitmate world class fighters.

some fighters don't get any luck ray.

Posted: 08 Jan 2002, 16:58
by Grey
That was an imposter...I don't think the real Ray would have written that.

Posted: 08 Jan 2002, 18:18
by kevin
It has a different joining date for the two ridiculous rays!

Posted: 09 Jan 2002, 07:14
by A Gift Decision
I agree with overhand that Jesse was often treated unfairly and he should be remembered as a worthy contender instead of a human punching bag. Nevertheless, he has also himself to blame. I saw his fight with Nicolson and in the match Ferguson seemed to be really unintrested, as if he didn't care at all if he lost (which he did). Also going out in one against Frank Bruno doesn't look too good in his record. You may be right, though, that at the time he was just tired of the unfair treatment he had often in his career. The Boogieman would never have become the real champion (maybe an alphabet), not by any means, but maybe, with better luck, he would be now a respected old warhorse, up there with the likes of Witherspoon and Tubbs ect.

Posted: 09 Jan 2002, 09:33
by Ridiculous_Ray
whoa, i may be ridiculous, i may even be ray but i didnt call anyone a tranny

perhaps i worded what i mean wrong, yes he was a contender and a guy i respect very much, nobody else had the balls to step in the ring with the level of competition that he regularly faced, all im saying is he wasa contender and nothing more, he had no ability to win the big fights...maybe you are right i havnt seen all of his fights or even most just the bowe fight. i am glad he is gone because he cant compete like he did anymore, and give guys fights like he used to.

and btw i am not an adult, please dont blame every stupid thing said on people being kids though, i have semi-informed to very informed opinions just like the rest of you so please dont think any less of others merely because we lack a certain nunmber of years on gods green earth

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Posted: 10 Jan 2002, 19:00
by 6 Pack
To Overhand Right: I didn't get back in time to defend my view the Boogieman was a real contender, but you certainly set the record straight. Good for you mate. I agree some check a fighters record without seeing any of the fights and assume because there is a lot of losses the fighter was inept.

Re: WHERE IS RENALDO SNIPES? JESSE FERGUSON?

Posted: 06 Oct 2012, 16:11
by CNorkusJr
Image

Here is a picture of Renaldo Snipes from Jan 2012 at the New York State Boxing HOF event in Queens, NY.
Renaldo is doing well and recovering from treatments of colon cancer. I believe it is in total remission and he is presently doing a commercial on TV supporting cancer care at the hospital he was treated at. He appears frquently at Ring 8 VBA meetings and various events Ring 8 hold. Very entertaining speaker on boxing and can remember his fights very well. A tough competitor in his boxing days, my father refereed several of hs fights in the 1980's and can be seen on video.
Charlie Norkus Jr.

As far as Jesse Ferguson, Jesse lived on the westside of midtown Manhattan in an apt complex during the 1990's. I only ran into him a few times back then, but he was doing well. I forgot where he worked or what he was doing at that time, but he looked none worse for wear. I thought to myself at that time in the mid 1990's, "I still wouldnt want to tangle with him in the ring (he looked that in shape at that time)".
Here we are in late 2012-and I do not know Jesse's whereabouts- most likely on Manhattan's westside.

Re: WHERE IS RENALDO SNIPES? JESSE FERGUSON?

Posted: 08 Oct 2012, 22:43
by BoxBuzz
As you can see, people have been arguing in these hallowed halls for over a decade. lol.

Truth be known, There were two ridiculous-ray's. One was a bit more stable and credible....his clone? Not so much.

As you can see when it comes to BS'n and phoney baloney, There's not much new under the sun......

But this genuine update? Now that's a gem worth reading. Thanks. Great photo as well. Much appreciated!

Re: WHERE IS RENALDO SNIPES? JESSE FERGUSON?

Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 02:33
by jehu
Both good contenders ,boggieman was much better then his record suggest but also lacked consistency had some early nights, I thought he would of done better then he did against bowe. He had a interesting career and some guys got the nod cause the money was on there side.

Re: WHERE IS RENALDO SNIPES? JESSE FERGUSON?

Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 12:23
by Nile4000
It's good that Renaldo Snipes is doing well.If he had only fought Mike Weaver instead of Holmes, maybe he could've been champ.