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Chavez vs Duran at both Prime

Posted: 26 Aug 2005, 17:57
by cabritox
who would win in their prime? remember that JC at 135 was a machine that just destroyed and demolished his opponents.

Re: Chavez vs Duran at both Prime

Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 02:28
by vagabundo55
cabritox wrote:who would win in their prime? remember that JC at 135 was a machine that just destroyed and demolished his opponents.
So was Duran. :TU:

Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 05:02
by Syntax Error
Very tough to call.

I would say Chavez, simply because he has never done a No Mas!

Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 05:39
by Roll With The Punches
Syntax Error wrote:
he has never done a No Mas!
guess again :TU:

Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 05:50
by Syntax Error
Roll With The Punches wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:
he has never done a No Mas!
guess again :TU:
D'oh!!!! :oops:

Now I remember!!!! :oops: :box: :TU:

Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 08:29
by silkov
Duran was really a different class imo... much better opposition and much better technically than Chavez... he would outbox and cutup Chavez and win by either wide points verdict or late stoppage.

Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 08:40
by BoxBuzz
Duran.

Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 13:09
by dws
Duran,faster and better defense,but I'd pay a lot of money to see it.

Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 14:14
by vagabundo55
I have to say Duran but Chavez beating him is not out of the question either.. it's a very real possibility except that the most probable outcome is Duran by decision or by cuts.

Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 14:31
by meade95
Duran beats JC at LW - Duran was much faster, better defense and hit harder -

Duran stops JC middle to late rounds -

Posted: 27 Aug 2005, 15:24
by ringsider
Duran, then he beats up PBF the same night. :box: :box:

Posted: 28 Aug 2005, 14:02
by KOJOE90
This would have been a vicious war at Lightweight.

The ring would have been spilling over with 'Macho pride'. But I see the aggresive Chavez meeting his match in this one.

The great Chavez would have his moments to be sure, even the Lightweight force of nature that was Duran would feel the pressure and those crippling left hooks from the Mexican hero.

But Durans extra speed, defence skills and counterpunching takes him to a points victory.

Posted: 28 Aug 2005, 22:07
by sharkeysboy
Duran was god like. He beats any lightweight ever.

Posted: 29 Aug 2005, 23:57
by ELA
Duran by a hair.

Durans speed and superb head movement in close would be the difference. However, Chavez would never give up trying.

Posted: 30 Aug 2005, 07:03
by Ezzard
Duran is quicker and punches harder. They would go toe to toe with neither giving an inch.

Duran 9-6 on rounds.

Posted: 30 Aug 2005, 07:08
by Gordon
As an avid admirer of both men, I find it hard to split the two.

However at 135lbs Duran was the best ever.

So I see Roberto being just a tad too much for JC Superstar.

Duran in UD or late stoppage.

Chavez/Duran

Posted: 31 Aug 2005, 21:04
by wlvrne
I agree with KOJOE90 -- this would have been AWESOME.
I gotta go with "the hands of stone" on this one though. Duran's head movement and counter-punches would have frustrated Chavez into trying something outta the ordinary for him.
Then again, Chavez' body-punches would have found their target fairly often. Still, Duran's conditioning would make up for it.

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 08:01
by elmersalsa
Both men are my favorite fighters. What a fight this one would have been. Both fighters used to give relentless pressure in their primes. I think Chavez was very tough, BUT DURAN IS NOT Edwin Rosario. Chavez would have been too slow for Duran even though Chavez used to get warmer as the rounds passed by. He was a slow starter. By the time Chavez warms up, Duran would have already a great lead. At lightweight, between 1976-78, DURAN WAS THE GREATEST FIGHTER I HAVE EVER SEEN. Duran on points. :TU: :TU: :TU:

Posted: 01 Sep 2005, 12:09
by BROZO
Duran is without a doubt an all time great, I got to see a lot of his fights since the 70's was the era that I followed closely.

IMHO Duran as in most cases gets better and better as time goes by. This happens because a lot of the younger generations have only seen highlight of his fights and/or only heard third hand account of how good a fighter was, as opposed to seeing many of his fights the full distance at the time that they happened.

Duran, Chavez, Olivares and Arguello are probably my favorite fighters from Feather to Lightweight.

I would say that Chavez at Lightweight was very underrated defensively, had an undentable chin and was relentless. Duran on the other hand had the hands of stone but most of his Ko's were not one punch knockouts but the result of a relentless beating that Duran would dish out. In Chavez you would have a guy who could possibly go toe to toe with duran and hurt him to the body. I would have a hard time picking a winner and if pressed would say its a pick'em fight...........and much closer than some people think it would be.

just my .02

Posted: 02 Sep 2005, 11:17
by Loki
Duiran by KO.

Both were legends, but "Hands of Stone" was God-like.

Posted: 02 Sep 2005, 11:34
by Ezzard
I can't see a KO with these 2. They both had great chins and were hard to hit cleanly.

Posted: 03 Sep 2005, 07:51
by lumpymo
Syntax Error wrote:Very tough to call.

I would say Chavez, simply because he has never done a No Mas!
Did you see his second fight with Oscar Dela Hoya?

Why do you pin heads keep bringing that up anyways? :evil:
Is that all you have to go on, don't you look at records, accomplishments?
Dam no one did as much as Duran in this modern era of boxing.

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 13:26
by BROZO
lumpymo wrote:
Syntax Error wrote:Very tough to call.

I would say Chavez, simply because he has never done a No Mas!
Did you see his second fight with Oscar Dela Hoya?

Why do you pin heads keep bringing that up anyways? :evil:
Is that all you have to go on, don't you look at records, accomplishments?
Dam no one did as much as Duran in this modern era of boxing.
He was an all time great and one of my favorite fighters of all time........but lets not go crazy, there are a lot of fighters who have accomplished great things. Leonard is one fighter that comes to mind who accomplished many great things if not more than duran. Hell Arguello might hava had the style to KO Duran at lightweight.

chavez/duran

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 14:52
by wlvrne
That's a good point Brozo. Arguello would fire hard shots from way out while Duran was better on the inside.

Posted: 05 Sep 2005, 17:22
by dws
No way Arguello beats Duran,Roberto was too fast,too slick,and even better than Arguello on the inside.I wouldn't say for sure but Arguello struggled to make 130 for awhile yet he didn't move up until Duran went to 140 then 147.I'm not saying he waited to avoid Duran but it's something to think about.