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early 1950 heavyweights vs early 1960s heavyweights

Posted: 29 Aug 2005, 03:27
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
I made this myself, here is the early 1950s vs early 1960s. who was better ???? i will choose a winner after each day of polling and listening to peoples perspectives and by the end i will see which early decade won more matches.

matchups are like this: the ranked heavyweight from the early 50s and early 60s will face the fighter that has the same rank so for example:

10 vs 10

6 vs 6

1 vs 1

I did the ratings myself. so here it is....

heres the early 1950s 1950-1955 rated 1-10.

1. Rocky Marciano- prime as heavyweight: 1951-55
Fighting height and weight: 5'11 187 lbs
Best wins : KO 13 Walcott, W15 Ezzard Charles, KO 9 Archie Moore
Strengths: right hand KO punch, Strength, stamina, heart, body attack
Weakness: Cut Prone, bad starter, Speed

2. Jersey Joe Walcott- prime as heavyweight: 1948-52
Fighting Height and Weight: 6'0 196 lbs
Best wins : KO 7 Ezzard Charles, KO 3 Harold Johnson, W15 Charles
Strengths: amazing defense, KO power, Jab, Ring smarts, Shuffle
weakness: Trouble against big punchers, lack of aggresion

3. Ezzard Charles- prime as heavyweight : 1949-51
fighting Height and Weight: 6'0 182 lbs
Best wins: W15 Jersey Joe Walcott, KO 8 Archie Moore,
KO 6 Lyoyd Marshall
Strengths: amazing Boxing skills, speed, Experience, defense, stamina
Weakness: size, strength


4. Archie Moore - prime as heavyweight: 1954-55
Fighting Height and Weight: 5'11 188 lbs(his weight against marciano)
Best Wins: KO 14 Harold Johnson, W15 Nino Valdez, W15 Joey Maxim
Strengths: Crab style defense,ring smarts,power, Finishing power
Weakness: normally Light-H, chin,

5. Harold Johnson - Prime as heavyweight 1949-1959
Fighting Height and Wieght: 5'10 178 lbs
Best Wins: W10 Archie Moore, KO 2 Bob Satterfield, W10 Ezzard
Strenghts: Amazing Boxing Skills, Defense, Power, Speed
Weakness: Size very small for heavyweight, Strength, not much experience at heavyweight.

6. Roland Lastarza prime as heavyweight: 1950-54
Fighting Height and Weight: 6'0 190 lbs
Best Wins: W10 Rex Layne, W10 Dan Bucceroni, W10 Cesar Brion
Strengths: Boxing skills, Defense and counterpunching, Jab
Weakness: lack of KO punch, lack of aggresion, offense

7. Nino Valdez Prime as heavyweight 1953-1955
FIghting Height and Weight 6'3 214 lbs
Best wins: W10 Ezzard Charles, TKO 2 Hurricane Jackson,
W10 Mike De John
Strentghs: Power, Size, Strength, Offense
Weakness: lack of finishing power, aggresion, Defense

8. Bob Satterfield Prime as Heavyweight 1950-1955
Fighting Height and Weight 6'2 183 lbs
Best Wins: W10 Nino Valdez, KO 3 Cleveland Williams, KO 1 Bob Baker
Strengths: KO Power especially right hand, Strength, Offense
Weakness: Glass Jaw, Defense, Ring Smarts

9. Bob Baker Prime as Heavyweight 1950-1955
Fighting Height and Wieght 6'2 220 lbs
Best Wins- W10 Nino Valdez, W10 Joe Baksi, W10 jimmy bivins
Strengths: Size, Strength, Boxing skills, Smart
Weakness: lack of Power, chin, offense

10. Clarence Henry - Prime as Heavyweight 1950-1953
Fighting Height and Wieght 6'1 184 lbs
Best Wins: KO 1 Bob Satterfield, KO 8 Bob Baker, W10 Baker
Strengths: KO power, Jab, Offense, Chin
Weakness: weight, Strength, Toughness, experience


vs


early 1960s heavyweights 1960-1965 rated 1-10

1. Muhammad ali - 6'3 208 lbs Heavyweight Prime 1965-67
Best Wins : W15 Ernie Terell, TKO 7 Sonny Liston, TKO 3 Cleveland
Strength: Amazing Hand and foot speed, defense, Jab, Natural Talent
Weakness: Susceptible to left hook, can work on his body, vunaerable when clowning around.

2. Sonny Liston- 6'1 215 lbs Prime as Heavyweight 1959-62
Best wins: KO 3 Zora Folley, KO 1 Patterson, W12 Eddie Machen
Strength: KO power in both hands, hard Jab, Indimidating, Strength
Weakness: Questionable Heart, Stamina, lack of handspeed, ocasional wide uncoordinated punches

3. Floyd Patterson- 6'0 190 lbs Prime as Heavyweight 1959-1965
Best Wins: KO 5 Ingemar Johansen, W12 Eddie Machen, W12 Chuvalo
Strength: amazing Hand Speed, Peek a Boo style, boxing skills, Left Hook
Weakness: Glass Jaw, Strength, Off Balance a lot

4. Ingemar Johansen - 6'0 200 lbs Heavyweight Prime 1959-1961
Best Wins: KO 1 Eddie Machen, TKO 3 Floyd Patterson, KO 5 Cooper
Strength: Ingo's Bingo (right hand), Smart, Crafty, Strength
Weakness: Chin, Defense, Leaves himself open, Right hand crazy

5. Eddie Machen - 6'0 197 lbs Prime as Heavyweight 1958-1965
Best Wins: TKO 10 Hurricane Jackson, D10 Cleveland Williams, W10 Jones
Strength: Defense, Boxins Skills, Poise, Jab, RIng Smarts
Weakness: Lack of Power, Vunerable Chin, Offense

6. Cleveland Williams- 6'3 210 lbs Prime as Heavyweight 1958-1963
Best wins: TKO 7 Ernie Terrell, D10 Eddie Machen, TKO 5 Alex Miteff
Strength: KO power, Strength, Size, Toughness, Reach
weakness: Defense, Ring Smarts, Boxing skills

7. Ernie Terell- 6'6 206 lbs Prime as Heavyweight 1963-1967
Best Wins: W15 Eddie Machen, W10 Cleveland Williams, W15 Chuvalo
Strength: Reach, Boxing Skills, Height, Speed, Defense
Weakness: Questionable Chin, lack of KO power, aggresion

8. Zora Folley - 6'1 200 lbs Prime as Heavyweight 1959-1964
Best Wins: W12 Eddie Machen, W10 George Chuvalo, W10 Bonavena
Strength: Boxing Skills, Jab, Strength, Counterpunching
Weakness: Glass Jaw, Defense, lack of KO power

9. George Chuvalo 6'0 212 lbs Prime as Hevayweight: 1963-69
Best Wins: TKO 11 Doug Jones, KO 7 Jerry Quarry, TKO 5 Manuel Ramos
Strength: Best Chin ever, Power, Toughness, Body Attack, Stamina
Weakness: Defense, Speed, Boxing Skills,

10. Doug Jones- 6'0 190 lbs Prime as Heavyweight: 1962-66
Best Wins: TKo 8 Bob Foster, KO 7 Zora Folley, W10 Billy Daniels
Strength: Boxing skills, speed, Counterpunching, Stamina
Weakness: Strength, size a former light-H, KO power, can outphysicaled



so heres the macthups

# 10 Clarence Henry 50s vs # 10 Doug Jones 60s

# 9 Bob Baker 50s vs # 9 George Chuvalo 60s

# 8 Bob Satterfield 50s vs # 8 Zora Folley 60s

# 7 Nino Valdez 50s vs # 7 Ernie Terrell 60s

# 6 Roland Lastarza 50s vs # 6 Cleveland Williams 60s

# 5 Harold Johnson 50s vs # 5 Eddie Machen 60s

# 4 Archie Moore 50s vs # 4 Ingemar Johansen 60s

# 3 Ezzard Charles 50s vs # 3 Floyd Patterson 60s

# 2 Jersey Joe Walcott 50s vs # 2 Sonny Liston 60s

# 1 Rocky Marciano 50s vs # 1 Muhammad Ali 60s





First Matchup for BOxrec to discuss:
# 10 Doug Jones Early 60s vs # 10 Clarence Henry early 50s

Posted: 29 Aug 2005, 19:58
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
bump who wins doug jones or clarence henry???

Posted: 29 Aug 2005, 21:07
by BoxBuzz
I'd say Clarence. To my way of thinking Doug was over rated.

Posted: 29 Aug 2005, 22:06
by Rory McCloskey
i would have to take clarence... doug was probably a little overrated at the time, but regardless i think clarence was just the better fighter.

Posted: 30 Aug 2005, 01:49
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
ok talk for doug jones-clarence henry is closed.


we will go on to the next matchup...

# 9 BOb Baker vs # 9 George Chuvalo


who wins???

Posted: 30 Aug 2005, 06:30
by BoxBuzz
Chuvalo toughs it out. Comes out on top in a 15 rd decision.