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Who u think will win this one? at 130, 135, and 140?

Chavez wins them all by KO or TKO.. Mayweather's chin hasn't really been tested, and Chavez' exceptional body punching would have worn Mayweather down. I don't think Mayweather has enough power to keep Chavez off him.

yeah, i think you're right. chavez power and cutting the ring for Mayweather would be enough.

I'm a little surprised how almost everyone has picked both Chavez and Duran to cut off the ring on Mayweather and knock him out. Surprised, because in 35 fights, no one has even come close to accomplishing that feat. The guy is not only the best defensive fighter in the world but he's also probably the fastest. Against a prime Chavez, I can't see him frequently going toe to toe like Meldrick Taylor foolishly did and paid the price. Instead I could envision Mayweather using his blinding handspeed to keep Chavez off balance while at the same time never giving his opponent a chance to land his crunching bodyshots. With Mayweather's speed a fight like this would be his to lose. I suppose it's possible he could get over over cofident and trade punches with Chavez and perhaps get KO'd, but I think a far more likely scenario would be Pretty Boy Floyd putting on a boxing clinic and winning a clear cut decision. As the old adage goes "Speed Kills" and Mayweather has got it in abundance.

i agree with u seamus

Seamus wrote:I'm a little surprised how almost everyone has picked both Chavez and Duran to cut off the ring on Mayweather and knock him out. Surprised, because in 35 fights, no one has even come close to accomplishing that feat. The guy is not only the best defensive fighter in the world but he's also probably the fastest. Against a prime Chavez, I can't see him frequently going toe to toe like Meldrick Taylor foolishly did and paid the price. Instead I could envision Mayweather using his blinding handspeed to keep Chavez off balance while at the same time never giving his opponent a chance to land his crunching bodyshots. With Mayweather's speed a fight like this would be his to lose. I suppose it's possible he could get over over cofident and trade punches with Chavez and perhaps get KO'd, but I think a far more likely scenario would be Pretty Boy Floyd putting on a boxing clinic and winning a clear cut decision. As the old adage goes "Speed Kills" and Mayweather has got it in abundance.

Maybe it'd work against Chavez.. but against Duran.. it's extremely doubtful. Until Mayweather fights someone comparable to Duran or Chavez i'm going to have to say Mayweather would lose against both of those fighters. I see your point.. Mayweather might run all night against Chavez, but Duran at lightweight wasn't slow either. He had in my opinion more than enough skill to cut off the ring against Mayweather.

it would work against chavez, but not duran. duran knocks out mayweather

Wen he fought Chavez Meldrick Taylor did not want to fight as much as he did, nor did the majority of fighters that he defeated. They had no choice in the matter, because Chavez made them fight the type of fight that he wanted them to fight. He was very good at cutting off the ring, obviously, but ther was more to it than that. He was always right there in front of his opponent, but a bit out of range. Thus his opponent had a choice; move again or initiate the exchange by punching first; if they moved the open area shrunk a bit more and he was still right in front of them. If they chose to fight then they were fighting his fight. Also Chavez did not plunge forward eating punches; he was, in fact, one of the better defensive fighters aroundk, considering the level he fought at and how few times one can recall actually seeing him hit hard and clean. He'd work Mayweather to a position where PBF would have to lead and then he'd get hit. PBF is a good counter puncher but he benefits from not fighting in one of the great eras ofboxing, and not having to face too many guys that throw combinations instead of a lot of punches. It may take a few rounds to get him thinking about losing but PBF would unravel soon enough aned be TKO'd @ the 9th round.

tiredoldngrey wrote:Wen he fought Chavez Meldrick Taylor did not want to fight as much as he did, nor did the majority of fighters that he defeated. They had no choice in the matter, because Chavez made them fight the type of fight that he wanted them to fight. He was very good at cutting off the ring, obviously, but ther was more to it than that. He was always right there in front of his opponent, but a bit out of range. Thus his opponent had a choice; move again or initiate the exchange by punching first; if they moved the open area shrunk a bit more and he was still right in front of them. If they chose to fight then they were fighting his fight. Also Chavez did not plunge forward eating punches; he was, in fact, one of the better defensive fighters aroundk, considering the level he fought at and how few times one can recall actually seeing him hit hard and clean. He'd work Mayweather to a position where PBF would have to lead and then he'd get hit. PBF is a good counter puncher but he benefits from not fighting in one of the great eras ofboxing, and not having to face too many guys that throw combinations instead of a lot of punches. It may take a few rounds to get him thinking about losing but PBF would unravel soon enough aned be TKO'd @ the 9th round.

That's very similar to what I envisioned happening if they'd ever fight.

What about Chavez-Whittaker? Whittaker did that odd knee bending duck and should have won a decision. PBF could find a way to win too. We don't know enough about PBF yet. Does he have the chin? The guts? the stamina for a big fight over 12 (hate 12 rounder please bring back 15).

Against Duran he loses probably by late stoppage.

mayweather would break both his fragile hands on Chavez head in around the 3rd round and then suffer a drawn out, burtal, yet precise beaten. Like Tiredoldngrey said, tko9. And like almost everyone else Chavez fought, never be the same again.

At 130 I'm not sure I haven't seen enough of Floyd at that weight to give an informed opinion.

At 135...Mayweather without question...I really believe that 135 is the optimum weight for Floyd and he is better at that weight than any other. As good as Chavez was, I think Mayweather would decision him. I'm not sure I have seen anyone faster than Mayweather at 135

At 140...I'd like to see Mayweather get it on with a top tier fighter at 140 like Ricky Hatton or Miguel Cotto...even Kostya Tszyu if he has enough left in the tank to make another run at the top. From the fights that I have seen with Mayweather at 140...he appears much slower than he was at 135 (as hard as that is to imagine) and he definitely got rocked against Chop Chop Corley, who isn't known for his power. I don't think I have seen enough of Floyd at 140 to make an informed decision...but from what I have seen I would take Chavez.

And for those that think the difference between 135 and 140 isn't significant enough to change the outcome of a match between two fighters, I will say this...a 3.57% weight increase dramatically changes the hand speed and overall movement of a fighter, and even though fighter x may have the advantage over fighter y in one weight class, fighter y may have the advantage over fighter x in another weight class.

Seamus wrote:I'm a little surprised how almost everyone has picked both Chavez and Duran to cut off the ring on Mayweather and knock him out. Surprised, because in 35 fights, no one has even come close to accomplishing that feat.

Chavez and Duran fought other great fighters Mayweather has only faced Corrales, and Castillo. Castillo beat him in their first meeting and I wouldn't call Castillo and Corrales great. But just good fighters. Im waiting for Mayweather to fight someone who is not a punching bag like Gatti, If he is even trying to be considered to be as great as Chavez, and Duran he needs to take a little more risks in his opponet selection.

At 135...Mayweather without question...I really believe that 135 is the optimum weight for Floyd and he is better at that weight than any other. As good as Chavez was, I think Mayweather would decision him. I'm not sure I have seen anyone faster than Mayweather at 135

Except for the 2nd Castillo fight, who got robbed in the first fight, when was Mayweather impressive at lightweight? chavez at lightweight beat top tier guys like Rosario, Ramirez and Uncle Roger. All three would have beaten Castillo who i think beat floyd in the first fight. Chavez would have destroyed Castillo. I think Floyd would have gotten tough fights out of his uncle and Ramirez, but would have still beat them comfortably. Rosario on the other hand would have been very tough for Mayweather; with his power, boxing skill, ability to cut of the ring i wouldnt be surprised if he battered floyd around the ring all night.

Oh yeah, i think in their prime, Mosely and Camacho were faster lightweights.

Mayweather had 26 fights at 130; Chavez was 44-0 when he won the title and 56-0 when he moved to LW. They each had only 5 fights at 135. PBF has had 3 ights at 140 while you know about Chavez.
It suprised me to find that 130 is Mayweather's most representative weight; unfortunately it was where Chavez was at his best skill wise. The combination of the boxing skills and and pressure and power of Chavez would beat PBF down just like Chavez did to Uncle Roger.

theone wrote:At 135...Mayweather without question...I really believe that 135 is the optimum weight for Floyd and he is better at that weight than any other. As good as Chavez was, I think Mayweather would decision him. I'm not sure I have seen anyone faster than Mayweather at 135

Except for the 2nd Castillo fight, who got robbed in the first fight, when was Mayweather impressive at lightweight? chavez at lightweight beat top tier guys like Rosario, Ramirez and Uncle Roger. All three would have beaten Castillo who i think beat floyd in the first fight. Chavez would have destroyed Castillo. I think Floyd would have gotten tough fights out of his uncle and Ramirez, but would have still beat them comfortably. Rosario on the other hand would have been very tough for Mayweather; with his power, boxing skill, ability to cut of the ring i wouldnt be surprised if he battered floyd around the ring all night.

Oh yeah, i think in their prime, Mosely and Camacho were faster lightweights.

Mosleys speed is overrated at lighweight. And I aggree Camachos hands were way faster, then the rest.