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Virgil Hill
Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 08:32
by numpty
Seems this guy is fighting for the WBA cruiserweight title again!! At 41!!
What happened to JM Mormeck, he only just won that title and now it is vacant again?!
Hill should've stuck to his retirement plan but I think he has a good chance against the Russian guy he is fighting..
Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 08:38
by states
Mormeck is now WBA 'super champion' as he holds more than one belt, which means the regular title is available for the WBA to screw more sanction fees out of people.
Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 08:49
by numpty
Ahh, so that is why Chris John is Featherweight champ etc! Kind of down grades the normal champ then really it is more of an interim belt then!
Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 10:34
by dondada
numpty wrote:Ahh, so that is why Chris John is Featherweight champ etc! Kind of down grades the normal champ then really it is more of an interim belt then!
How VERY dare you!

Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 11:25
by Autobarn
reminds me when Hopkins' WBA title was split to accommodate Joppy. wish Mormeck would do what Hopkins did to Joppy & hammer & humiliate him for it.
Funny thing is Mormeck already battered Hill into submission and won a surprisingly tough rematch! Would be funny if he found a way to Hill III although obviously it's besides King's and the WBA's point.
Whatever, let's hope this doesn't stop all these excellent top 10 guys from fighting each other. Hopefully Showtime don't endorse this nonsense, as they are supposed to only approve the best available fights.
Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 11:29
by nickd
This guy Hill is fighting looks useful.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=015182
Fair enough Hill getting a title shot to celebrate his centenary year! Seems like he's been around forever.
Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 13:04
by jomothepure
I brought this up on the current scene. It's absolutely ridiculous. Is the WBA ruled by headless emus or something. If you have an undisputed champion of the world, you can't have another world champion. You're just admitting the 2nd guy is 2nd best. Absolute farce and it should be stopped.
And Virgil Hill retired after he lost to Mormeck. Now I wonder what's brought him out of retirement???
Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 13:34
by nickd
jomothepure wrote:I brought this up on the current scene. It's absolutely ridiculous. Is the WBA ruled by headless emus or something. If you have an undisputed champion of the world, you can't have another world champion. You're just admitting the 2nd guy is 2nd best. Absolute farce and it should be stopped.
And Virgil Hill retired after he lost to Mormeck. Now I wonder what's brought him out of retirement???
This WBA Super Champ nonsense is old news they have been doing it for a while now.
Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 13:38
by jomothepure
nickd wrote:jomothepure wrote:I brought this up on the current scene. It's absolutely ridiculous. Is the WBA ruled by headless emus or something. If you have an undisputed champion of the world, you can't have another world champion. You're just admitting the 2nd guy is 2nd best. Absolute farce and it should be stopped.
And Virgil Hill retired after he lost to Mormeck. Now I wonder what's brought him out of retirement???
This WBA Super Champ nonsense is old news they have been doing it for a while now.
Yeah I know. Doesn't make it any better tho

Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 13:40
by stujones
Hill deserves this fight, he ran Mormeck VERY close.
Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 20:08
by Manos de Oro
stujones wrote:Hill deserves this fight, he ran Mormeck VERY close.
Apparently he trained like never before for that rematch - having had to cut weight the first time round.
A fit Hill is still someone to be reckoned with, as his main skill is working with that left jab.
He could still expose a few pretenders if he comes in in top shape, despite having been around forever.
Posted: 08 Sep 2005, 20:12
by Manos de Oro
Just looked at this Russian's record. He's never been past 8 rounds and is fighting for a 'world' title. Cool.
Posted: 09 Sep 2005, 03:23
by Raff The Frenchman
i admit Hill gave Mormeck a much tougher rematch compared to their 1st bout where Mormeck really pummeled him...still Mormeck never was put in trouble during their rematch...Mormeck floored Hill who nevertheless suffered and was at least 3 points behind Mormeck...but from what i've seen in Mormeck's bout against Braithwaite, Mormeck has improved a LOT and is even bigger and stronger, Hill would get killed in another rematch with Mormeck...
Posted: 09 Sep 2005, 03:33
by Freiheit
Can anyone remember what the last unification match were that didnt have the WBA champ as one of the boxers?
Posted: 09 Sep 2005, 05:04
by Manos de Oro
Freiheit wrote:Can anyone remember what the last unification match were that didnt have the WBA champ as one of the boxers?
Maybe DLH - Trinidad? Julio Diaz stepping up to face Castillo was a 'virtual' WBC/IBF unification, but if I remember right Diaz had to vacate it beforehand due to some red-tape nonsense from the 'sanctioning body'.
That's a good question though, because the WBA seem to be involved in the majority of unifications.
Posted: 09 Sep 2005, 08:37
by Loynesy
The next one will be Barrera v Peden.
Will have a think at to the last one.
Posted: 09 Sep 2005, 08:38
by Loynesy
Castillo - Corales
Posted: 09 Sep 2005, 09:00
by Autobarn
Raff The Frenchman wrote:i admit Hill gave Mormeck a much tougher rematch compared to their 1st bout where Mormeck really pummeled him...still Mormeck never was put in trouble during their rematch...Mormeck floored Hill who nevertheless suffered and was at least 3 points behind Mormeck...but from what i've seen in Mormeck's bout against Braithwaite, Mormeck has improved a LOT and is even bigger and stronger, Hill would get killed in another rematch with Mormeck...
Hill did ok in the rematch, but Mormeck was always ahead plus he knocked him over. I don't think it should've been scored as close as it was. JMM was a little raw & he learned a lot against the veteran.
Posted: 09 Sep 2005, 09:13
by Kilburn
Morales v Hernandez was for the WBC & IBF.
Posted: 09 Sep 2005, 10:25
by silkov
This superchampion stuff is total shit though!. Now we have two or three WBA champs at the same weight!. Sickening!. Its just greed, pure greed!.