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Did anyone on the forum see any of their fights? It's extremely rare that 2 great fighters get to match up with one another like they did and for em they are 1 and 2 in the all time great Light Heavy list.

Were their fights filmed? Are they available? The second fight was supposed to be a very close affair.

Can anyone here share what they know about these encounters?

Don't know if their fights were filmed or not, but I do know that Charles had the style that beat Moore seven days of the week. Moore never manged to figure out Charles, while Charles managed to read Moore like an open book. Their third fight, which Moore was confident he would win, was onesided. Moore was like a fish out of water that night.

Charles and Charley Burley are the two fighters who Moore never had a chance against.

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actually the fights were extremely close

Charles beating Moore three times is a very deceptive stat. Charles won the first fight pretty clear and outboxed moore in a tactical fight, but the second fight was a controversial decision in Charles' backyard and Moore thought he won the fight and other people thought moore won, and the third fight was a very dramatic and shocking ending in a close fight which Moore by all accounts had Charles very nearly out and on the verge of a knockout, but Charles escaped just long enough to begin clearing his head, then landed a hail-mary shot that turned the tide and knocked Moore out with a rallying flurry. so the 2nd and 3rd fights were very close and comptetive. moore could have got the decision in the 2nd fight, and in the 3rd was close to knocking charles out before getting knocked out.

But ezzard won all 3 very fair and square and proved he was the greatest light-H of all time. but moore did give charles hard times, and the series was much closer than 3-0 charles.

IMO moore was just starting to reach his prime when he fought charles at a ripe age of 35. Moore was not as good as Charles at the time they met in the ring. He was not as good a heavyweight as Charles, either.

I rank moore 3rd greatest light-H of all time and charles # 2.

..only private films of these fights were made...from ringside by ezzard's people.

ezzard won the first one without much trouble...scored a knockdown and outboxed and outsped moore.

i don't know how the cincinnati fight has somehow gotten into boxing lore that it was so close and could have gone either way. mostly, i think because moore has three auto bios out and two bios and his claim that it was a hometown decison seems to have merit because it was in ezzard's home town. it was a good fast fight, fairly even for a while, but charles put archie on the floor sometime after the fifth round and won the late ones going away. archie was awfully slow after the knockdown and at that time ezzard was one of the fastest beings on two feet.

as i've written before, it's ironic that the third fight was the one in which ezzard scored the knockout, but was the one moore came closest to winning. he did well early....very fast pace....and did have charles in trouble just before the knockout, but ezzard wasn't groggy ...but was shake....he was getting hit with good shots ...and as even archie admitted, ezzard tricked moore into a move that left him open for charles' counters...a short quick combination and then that devastating one punch that one writer said was like a coiled spring snapping open.

when they were both light heavies i agree fully with the writer here who said charles would have beaten him every time they fought.

so many people think of ezzard the boxer...but he was also a harder puncher than moore and most others in the division at that time. (remember, in the three moore fights archie was on the floor in each and ezzard never was.)
.so much so that nat flesicher referrered to him as "the most dangerous fighter in the world today." ironic in that his very next fight..about a month later, was when he killed sam baroudi...but that story has been told too often to go into it again.

Great fights, Archie showed a lot and probably should own fight #2 but you know when you knock a man down the psyche of that goes a long way with judges. Especially in your home town. It was close enough that no one needs to blame the home town judges. Take nothing from Ezzard he was a class act.

..the only psyche that was affected by the knockdown was moore's...archie stayed in his shell from that time on.

Jaclem wrote:..only private films of these fights were made...from ringside by ezzard's people.

ezzard won the first one without much trouble...scored a knockdown and outboxed and outsped moore.

i don't know how the cincinnati fight has somehow gotten into boxing lore that it was so close and could have gone either way. mostly, i think because moore has three auto bios out and two bios and his claim that it was a hometown decison seems to have merit because it was in ezzard's home town. it was a good fast fight, fairly even for a while, but charles put archie on the floor sometime after the fifth round and won the late ones going away. archie was awfully slow after the knockdown and at that time ezzard was one of the fastest beings on two feet.

as i've written before, it's ironic that the third fight was the one in which ezzard scored the knockout, but was the one moore came closest to winning. he did well early....very fast pace....and did have charles in trouble just before the knockout, but ezzard wasn't groggy ...but was shake....he was getting hit with good shots ...and as even archie admitted, ezzard tricked moore into a move that left him open for charles' counters...a short quick combination and then that devastating one punch that one writer said was like a coiled spring snapping open.

when they were both light heavies i agree fully with the writer here who said charles would have beaten him every time they fought.

so many people think of ezzard the boxer...but he was also a harder puncher than moore and most others in the division at that time. (remember, in the three moore fights archie was on the floor in each and ezzard never was.)
.so much so that nat flesicher referrered to him as "the most dangerous fighter in the world today." ironic in that his very next fight..about a month later, was when he killed sam baroudi...but that story has been told too often to go into it again.

Amazing that most people's #1 and #2 at the weight fought one another 3 times in living memory and yet the fights were not televised or filmed. Anybody ehre ever see the fights?

I've only read about them so I have come away with the bias I guess that was written into the biographies. But I have read conflicting eyewitness accounts as well.