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The Last Stand of Wlad Klitschko?

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 11:05
by MightyWarrior
This weekend it's one of those heavyweight fights we get every now and then, that actualy sets the pulse racing: Two massive punchers meeting in a risky cross roads fight, where anything can happen.

The bookies seem to think Wlad is damaged goods, and Peter is the real McCoy - but is he the next coming, or another mirage?

Who wins??

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 11:12
by REAL_DEAL
i think if peter win if he can get past wlad jab. Not sure about peter stamia at the high level in a hard fight. glad its on german tv for free sky is a tape delay :-? :box:

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 11:18
by MightyWarrior
Yes 2am start - Cotto is in with a banger too, so never know, might be be bombs away for a few rounds.

This is one I'll be staying up for.

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 11:25
by BubiScholz
The longer the fight goes the better the chances are for Wladi. His chin has to handle with Peters punches in the first rounds. If he didn´t get the KO early he could win in the later rounds by KO or UD. His fitness should be better than Peter´s.

Fortunately they show the fight in free tv but we are not able to watch any other fight in the US or UK because our Pay-TV doesn´t show any more boxing and that´s sad..... :(

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 11:37
by Manos de Oro
Kinda gutted when Sky said this one wouldn't be live. :cry: Very rare nowadays that you get an interesting heavyweight fight. Anyway, I've switched back and forth a few times, and I really think it's one of those ones where you won't get a clear view till the ringwalks/opening bell... which makes the fact it isn't live all the worse. :cry:

Shouldn't complain of course, since last year we probably wouldn't even have heard it mentioned.

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 11:55
by MightyWarrior
BubiScholz wrote:The longer the fight goes the better the chances are for Wladi. His chin has to handle with Peters punches in the first rounds.
I haven't seen much of Peter admittedly, but from what I have: he's not too fast is he?
He'll have a job getting past that left hand of Wlad, and might find himself on the end of the big right hand. Better have a good chin if that's the case.

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 11:59
by Kilburn
Peter is going to go flying in with a right hand you watch. The opening round should be a lot of fun, I really hope Klitschko recovers some form and looks good in there.

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 12:06
by dandantheweatherman
What German channel is the Klitschko-Peters on Bubi please (or anyone else in Germany/Holland), and do you know what time it starts?

Cheers.

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 12:07
by Manos de Oro
MightyWarrior wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:The longer the fight goes the better the chances are for Wladi. His chin has to handle with Peters punches in the first rounds.
I haven't seen much of Peter admittedly, but from what I have: he's not too fast is he?
He'll have a job getting past that left hand of Wlad, and might find himself on the end of the big right hand. Better have a good chin if that's the case.
He might be quite quick early, though I'd expect him to slow down if it gets past 6. If Wlad manages to keep him out of range with the jab and right hand it could be a nasty night for Peter...

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 12:08
by jamesmcdonnell
I think the Sam Peter express is about to meet with a large Ukranian elk which will derail it.

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 12:16
by BubiScholz
dandantheweatherman wrote:What German channel is the Klitschko-Peters on Bubi please (or anyone else in Germany/Holland), and do you know what time it starts?

Cheers.
ARD starts the coverage at 00.50 German Time. Klitschko-Peter is announced for 5.00 German Time. They show the whole card....

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 12:30
by chris s
Says it all about the heavyweight division at the moment that the best fight in the division so far this year is between a chinny Ukrainian and a untested Nigerian who is still learning.

I was in Vegas when when Peter wiped out Williams. Devastating KO but Williams hands were down by his waist so it was a free shot.

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 16:39
by stujones
Such a hard fight to call, Can Peter slip Wlad's shots? Can Peter take Wlad shots? What is Peter's stamina like? Can Wlad take Peter's shot? Can Wlad get rid of the demons and fight like he was 3 years back?

Lots of questions, not sure which way to go. Just have this sneaking feeling recently though that Wlad might just be too quick and big for Peter and Peter will not be able to slip/take Wlad's shots.

I see an early KO and I'm just starting to sway for Wlad.

Credit for both fighters for taking this fight.

I agree with the threads title, if Wlad loses its over.

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 16:41
by dandantheweatherman
Thanks for the times/channel Bubi. Looks like a late night Saturday!!

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 17:43
by Max Molyneux
If peter hits him toohard he'll fold, but if not Wlad should win. Wlad's a little like Bruno when he was hit on the chin but he doesn't have a flexibility problem like Frank did.

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 18:03
by DK2112
To be honest I think Wladimir will outclass Peter. It's an amazing fight, I am looking forward to this fight more than any other heavyweight fight in recent memory. Two huge punchers, one with a proven weak chin and another untested against real heavy hitters.

We always hope that the up and comers step up sooner rather than later but I think this is a foolish fight for Peter to take, there is more to lose than gain in my opinion. I can see Peter starting well but the step up in class will be too much and he'll be out of there within 5. But I hope I'm wrong because Peter is an exciting and unbeaten fighter.

Say Grace Also!

Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 01:03
by HeavyHitters
Say Goodnight, Wlady!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 04:41
by MightyWarrior
To be fair, I'm not yet convinced Wlad does have a weak chin. If you give him the benefit of the doubt about the Brewster disaster - no stamina that night and mental demons too - then that leaves the Sanders result.

And I reckon those Sanders left hooks would've floored any heavyweight in the world.

It's heavyweights, so anything can happen, but I'm leaning towards Wlad by TKO.

Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 04:47
by states
The closer the fight gets, the more convinced I am that Peter is going to look well out of his depth. Wlad to school him in 5, I think Peter is going to be eating that jab all night.

Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 07:45
by johnswan1
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think the Sam Peter express is about to meet with a large Ukranian elk which will derail it.
I agree. I think Wlad will be too experienced and too skilled for Peter.

Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 08:59
by Manos de Oro
stujones wrote:I agree with the threads title, if Wlad loses its over.
Well I ain't no Klistchko nuthugger but I will be quite sad to see Wlad go if he does happen to get banged out. Very rare you get those nice boxing skills from such a tall fighter.

Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 09:03
by steve689
Early on i predicted a Peter KO but i am starting to warm to Wlad, his jab and left hook will give Peter problems. For the good of Boxing i am backing Wlad :TU:

Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 10:50
by numpty
Wlad for me. Peter will quit in the 10th round. He will get jabbed in to submission :TU: :box:

Boom Boom!!!

Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 14:41
by HeavyHitters
I guess all of you still haven't realised just how good Peter CAN box. But it will finally dawn on all of you, after this fight. Peter is a solid boxer, with a very good, powerful jab. Not to mention his TNT punch, from both hands. All Peter has to do is keep pressure on Wlad, and keep Wlad backing up. Peter will take a few good shots from Wlad early on, but they won't have as much impact on him as you all think. This will discourage Wlad, and that is when Peter will come on strong.

Wlad will be surprised on how good Peter can jab back. That will be Peters first small victory in the fight. From there, Wlad will begin to unravel slowly.... Unless Peter plans to come out bombing... then it could be over with quickly, and be overwith in ugly fashion for Wlad....

:TU: :box: :TU:

Re: Boom Boom!!!

Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 15:03
by nickd
HeavyHitters wrote:I guess all of you still haven't realised just how good Peter CAN box. But it will finally dawn on all of you, after this fight. Peter is a solid boxer, with a very good, powerful jab. Not to mention his TNT punch, from both hands. All Peter has to do is keep pressure on Wlad, and keep Wlad backing up. Peter will take a few good shots from Wlad early on, but they won't have as much impact on him as you all think. This will discourage Wlad, and that is when Peter will come on strong.

Wlad will be surprised on how good Peter can jab back. That will be Peters first small victory in the fight. From there, Wlad will begin to unravel slowly.... Unless Peter plans to come out bombing... then it could be over with quickly, and be overwith in ugly fashion for Wlad....

:TU: :box: :TU:
Peter is not a good boxer, he has raw power but limited skills and is slow as shit. Please tell me when he has displayed these pugilistic skills as I have never seen them.