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Michael Carbajal v.s Brian Viloria

Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 21:33
by D1983
I'd say Carbajal wins a decision. I think it's hard to judge because it's a division thats never really abundant in talent.flyweight that is.

Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 13:54
by meade95
The Fly Wt division has seen some great talent over the years - The 90's had quite a few very good fighters (as did the 80's).

As for Carbajal Vs Viloria - this would have probably taken place at Jr. Fly Wt (not Fly Wt)

Viloria still has a lot more to prove - And a lot more to show -

I see Carbajal by mid to late round TKO -

If Viloria moved up to Fly Wt a prime Wongjongkam would beat him easily -

Re: Michael Carbajal v.s Brian Viloria

Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 14:11
by KOJOE90
D1983 wrote:I'd say Carbajal wins a decision. I think it's hard to judge because it's a division thats never really abundant in talent.flyweight that is.
There have been many outstanding fighters around the Flyweight limit over the years such as Pancho Villa, Miguel Canto, Jimmy Wilde, Fidel La Barba, Frankie Genaro, Small Montana, Walter McGowan, Sot Chitalada, Ricardo Lopez, Izzy Schwartz, Benny Lynch, Yuri Arbachakov & Peter Kane etc etc.

Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 17:38
by tiredoldngrey
I don't know how he'd do with Viloria, but he apparently did well enough in a couple unscheduled ringside bouts during the undercard of the Chavez Traveling Show a couple weeks back. Comeback?

More On Flyweights

Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 20:25
by Chuck1052
Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson, a flyweight of recent vintage was
a terrific fighter in his prime and is a legitimate candidate for
the WBHOF and the IBHOF. Of course, Ricardo Lopez (although
smaller than a flyweight) was a dominating fighter, too. Those
are two fighters who were better than any of the current
heavyweights.

There have been quite a number of terrific flyweights.
I believe that you will see alot of fighters with skill,
stamina, and heart in the division. In other words,
I don't believe that the heavyweights, notably the
current bunch, are very entertaining.

Of course, I feel that I am the John Bolton of boxing
because it is my belief that the sport wouldn't be hurt if
the heavyweight division was eliminated. Bolton is a
combative individual who is the current U.S. representative
in the United Nations. He said that the United Nations
wouldn't suffer if ten stories of the U.N. Building were
eliminated.

- Chuck Johnston

Re: More On Flyweights

Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 21:19
by meade95
Chuck1052 wrote:Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson, a flyweight of recent vintage was
a terrific fighter in his prime and is a legitimate candidate for
the WBHOF and the IBHOF. Of course, Ricardo Lopez (although
smaller than a flyweight) was a dominating fighter, too. Those
are two fighters who were better than any of the current
heavyweights.

There have been quite a number of terrific flyweights.
I believe that you will see alot of fighters with skill,
stamina, and heart in the division. In other words,
I don't believe that the heavyweights, notably the
current bunch, are very entertaining.

Of course, I feel that I am the John Bolton of boxing
because it is my belief that the sport wouldn't be hurt if
the heavyweight division was eliminated. Bolton is a
combative individual who is the current U.S. representative
in the United Nations. He said that the United Nations
wouldn't suffer if ten stories of the U.N. Building were
eliminated.

- Chuck Johnston
Bolton is a brilliant man. Too much common sense like that nowadays makes you labled "combative".

Re: Michael Carbajal v.s Brian Viloria

Posted: 03 Oct 2005, 20:24
by D1983
KOJOE90 wrote:
D1983 wrote:I'd say Carbajal wins a decision. I think it's hard to judge because it's a division thats never really abundant in talent.flyweight that is.
There have been many outstanding fighters around the Flyweight limit over the years such as Pancho Villa, Miguel Canto, Jimmy Wilde, Fidel La Barba, Frankie Genaro, Small Montana, Walter McGowan, Sot Chitalada, Ricardo Lopez, Izzy Schwartz, Benny Lynch, Yuri Arbachakov & Peter Kane etc etc.
Yeah but they always seem to come in diffrent times. They never had a golden age like Middle, heavy,etc. and the current super feather

Flyweights

Posted: 03 Oct 2005, 23:15
by Chuck1052
Take a look at the amount of outstanding flyweights who
were active during the 1920s and 1930s. They include
Jimmy Wilde, Pancho Villa, Frankie Genaro, Fidel
La Barba, Newsboy Brown, Pablo Dano, Clever Sencio,
Elky Clark, Black Bill, Benny Lynch, Midget Wolgast,
Young Tommy, Speedy Dado, Small Montana, and Little
Dado. Yes, I know that Pablo Dano, Young Tommy,
and Speedy Dado also were bantamweight, but you
get the idea. I am sure that I forgot to list other
fine flyweights..............

- Chuck Johnston

Posted: 04 Oct 2005, 18:45
by BoxBuzz
Carbajal one of my personal favorites. Always looked forward to seeing him on any card. I'd bet on him in this scenario.