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Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 05:19
by zuru
What if Gomez rose in weight to fight Arguello at 126,when Arguello was Champ? Would his handspeed,POWER,& slickness overcome Arguello?Or would it be the same as when he faced Sanchez,only More Brutal,due to Arguello's power?Remember how slick Gomez in his prime was.I think Arguello would batter him about,with Gomez landing good,but getting stopped in the late rounds,due to Arguello's extreme reach advantage and awesome powr.
Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 08:06
by Ambling Alp
It would be a tough fight for him,but I would also go with Arguello. It would probably be a late round stoppage. Gomez wasn't quite as good at featherweight as he had been at Super Bantam.
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Posted: 19 Oct 2005, 08:09
by barry
I think Arguello would be too strong for Gomez and being that Arguello had skill to match Gomez, well it would probably spell doom for Gomez...I'd choose Arguello by knockout in eight!
Posted: 20 Oct 2005, 09:54
by elmersalsa
Arguello crisp combinations and physical strenght would be too much for Gomez to handle. Also I think Arguello was more composed and had more leverage and fought better in the inside. Arguello by TKO by the 10th or 11th round.
Posted: 20 Oct 2005, 15:25
by silkov
Arguello by about 10 th round ko. I think he'd slowly dismantle Gomez... it would be a great fight with Gomezs speed and combinations causing Arguello some trouble early but Alexises strength and power would wear Gomez down in the end...
Posted: 20 Oct 2005, 20:43
by dws
Silkov nails it pretty good,Gomez still had good skills at 126 but he definetly was a few steps down from his greatness at 122.Gomez would box but at 5'5" to Alexis's 5'10" he would have success for some rounds but once Arguello starts connecting it'll be over quick.Gomez was a greater fighter than Arguello but not at featherweight.
Posted: 21 Oct 2005, 05:46
by silkov
I don't think I'd call Gomez the greater fighter than Arguello. Alexis had a phenominal career... champion at 3 weights and never beaten for his titles and look at the competition he faced. Gomez was great and perhaps a more complete boxer skillswise but his time at the top was shorter and he didn't have the great durability of Arguello... so all in all I'd say Alexis pips Gomez in the pound for pound stakes imo.
Posted: 21 Oct 2005, 05:59
by bollox
Definitely have to go with Arguello. Too much of everything for Gomez
First thought that popped into my head at reading the thread title was this: why did fighters from previous eras have so relayive little success when moving up in weight?
Almost every man and his dog does it today without too much trouble so what gives??? Is it because the opponent has probably moved up himself from a lower division? Or is it because there were more great fighters in days gone by, therefore the fighter moving up was facing a better class of fighter than today's fighters?
Posted: 21 Oct 2005, 06:56
by silkov
bollox wrote:Definitely have to go with Arguello. Too much of everything for Gomez
First thought that popped into my head at reading the thread title was this: why did fighters from previous eras have so relayive little success when moving up in weight?
Almost every man and his dog does it today without too much trouble so what gives??? Is it because the opponent has probably moved up himself from a lower division? Or is it because there were more great fighters in days gone by, therefore the fighter moving up was facing a better class of fighter than today's fighters?
A lot of todays fighters have help from 'nutritional extras!'.
Posted: 21 Oct 2005, 06:58
by bollox
silkov wrote:bollox wrote:Definitely have to go with Arguello. Too much of everything for Gomez
First thought that popped into my head at reading the thread title was this: why did fighters from previous eras have so relayive little success when moving up in weight?
Almost every man and his dog does it today without too much trouble so what gives??? Is it because the opponent has probably moved up himself from a lower division? Or is it because there were more great fighters in days gone by, therefore the fighter moving up was facing a better class of fighter than today's fighters?
A lot of todays fighters have help from 'nutritional extras!'.
These nutritional extras you speak of haven't helped them one bit where stamina is concerned
Posted: 21 Oct 2005, 07:09
by silkov
bollox wrote:silkov wrote:bollox wrote:Definitely have to go with Arguello. Too much of everything for Gomez
First thought that popped into my head at reading the thread title was this: why did fighters from previous eras have so relayive little success when moving up in weight?
Almost every man and his dog does it today without too much trouble so what gives??? Is it because the opponent has probably moved up himself from a lower division? Or is it because there were more great fighters in days gone by, therefore the fighter moving up was facing a better class of fighter than today's fighters?
A lot of todays fighters have help from 'nutritional extras!'.
These nutritional extras you speak of haven't helped them one bit where stamina is concerned
Indeed. Thats why many of todays top fighters are knackered after 5 rounds of moderate pace fighting. :x :x :x
Posted: 21 Oct 2005, 09:25
by Ezzard
Gomez might have some success early on but once Arguello's right hand landed with any regularoty he'd have Gomez out of there.
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 17:42
by Giancarlo
Arguello for me
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 18:22
by giacomino
Two of my favorite fighters OAT. I would like to think a younger, quicker Gomez could have caused an upset, but Arguello was a beast at 126. I know most would disagree, but i would have picked Gomez over any other featherweight belt-holder in the late 1970s, including Lopez and Pedroza
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 19:40
by Rover
Arguello by KO.
I'd also take Lopez and Pedroza over Gomez.
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 11:03
by barry
I would probably take Lopez over Gomez, but I think Gomez knocks out Pedroza!
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 11:06
by Nile4000
Arguello would take a beating early, but being poised, would come back and stop Gomez in the 11th to 13th.
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 18:04
by elmersalsa
barry wrote:I would probably take Lopez over Gomez, but I think Gomez knocks out Pedroza!
No way!
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 20:15
by Rover
elmersalsa wrote:barry wrote:I would probably take Lopez over Gomez, but I think Gomez knocks out Pedroza!
No way!
I agree. Pedroza was very tough.
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 20:50
by giacomino
Yup. Can't see Gomez stopping Pedroza but could see him narrowly outpointing him in a nut-buster.
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 04:00
by Counter-puncher
Argeullo would butcher Gomez, IMO
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 06:17
by RadioElRadar
Agreed it would be competitive for the first 5 or 6 rounds with Gomez maybe ahead on the cards but Arguello would start carving him up and beating him down from thereonin.
Arguello KO-10 for me with Bazooka looking a real mess at the end.
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 14:26
by elmersalsa
The great Wilfredo Gomez had a lot of heart. But just like his fight with the great Salvador Sanchez, I could picture him with the great Alexis Arguello with his face a total mess. A broken nose, eyes shut and bleeding through the mouth, just like Alfredo Escalera suffered.
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 29 Aug 2013, 00:13
by barry
Pedroza was KO'd three times, of the three the only one who punched in the same league as Gomez was Alfonso Zamora...if Oscar Arnal could KO Pedroza then I'm certain Gomez could as well! Gomez was more skilled and a much better boxer than Pedroza. Pedroza was rough and very good, but I don't see him standing up to Gomez. Though I would pick Lopez it would have to be by early knockout, within 3 to 5 rounds...if he was not able to take Gomez out by then I would pick Gomez to stop Lopez early. Lopez was one of the hardest hitting featherweights ever, but he did not have a great defense which would spell doom against an accurate, hard puncher like Gomez unless he stopped him early.
Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Alexis Arguello @ Featherweight
Posted: 29 Aug 2013, 00:19
by Rover
barry wrote:Pedroza was KO'd three times, of the three the only one who punched in the same league as Gomez was Alfonso Zamora...if Oscar Arnal could KO Pedroza then I'm certain Gomez could as well! Gomez was more skilled and a much better boxer than Pedroza. Pedroza was rough and very good, but I don't see him standing up to Gomez. Though I would pick Lopez it would have to be by early knockout, within 3 to 5 rounds...if he was not able to take Gomez out by then I would pick Gomez to stop Lopez early. Lopez was one of the hardest hitting featherweights ever, but he did not have a great defense which would spell doom against an accurate, hard puncher like Gomez unless he stopped him early.
By that logic Lockridge, Laporte, McGuigan, etc would have KO'd Pedroza. I don't know the circumstances of his two other stoppage losses (cuts, etc). Gomez also never showed such power at featherweight. It's fair to say it's inconclusive because he fought guys with iron chins (Sal and Laporte), but he never showed it there.