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Boxing's P4P weakest puncher???
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 08:59
by Syntax Error
We've had many debates about who's the hardest puncher, p4p in history, but who do you think is the weakest?
Which fighter couldn't knockout a greenfly with his best punch, yet alone another fighter?
I nomimate, British featherweight & Sugar Ray Leonard lookalike, Mr Colin McMillan!

He had very good skills, but virtually no power whatsoever!

Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 09:05
by Ezzard
maxie rosenbloom?
Willie Pep is probably the highest regarded fighter with the weakest punch.
Pernell Whittaker was quite feather fisted too.
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 09:15
by enrique
Former lightweight contender and boxing whiz Orlando Zulueta -who fought Joe Brown for the title- only scored seven KO's in 126 fights.
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Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 10:04
by barry
Jimmy Dundee….1 KO in 128 total bouts.
Young Farrell…5 KO in 250 total bouts.
Young Papke….6 KO in 200 total bouts.
Willie Pep could hit hard, his record is just decieving, sort of like Jimmy McLarnin, who had a low KO percentage, but was regarded as one of the hardest hitting fighters of his day! Had Pep fought nothing but tomatoe-cans he would have had a very high knockout percentage.
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 13:50
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
defintley maxie rosenbloom no question aabout it
- jimmy dundee also
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 13:51
by kick asner
Former Olympian Paul Gonzales. Gonzales came into the pros highly reguarded. He appeared to posses all of the tools that make a fighter great. Except when you would hear the results of his latest fight he always won by decsision, sort of strange given the fact your earlier fights are against easier opponents. His lack of power ended up being detrimental to his career. He ended up with only three knockouts.
Light Heavyweight Mike Quarry didn't posses much of a punch.
Re: Boxing's P4P weakest puncher???
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 14:10
by zuru
Syntax Error wrote:We've had many debates about who's the hardest puncher, p4p in history, but who do you think is the weakest?
Which fighter couldn't knockout a greenfly with his best punch, yet alone another fighter?
I nomimate, British featherweight & Sugar Ray Leonard lookalike, Mr Colin McMillan!

He had very good skills, but virtually no power whatsoever!

Saoul Mamby,Nicolino Loche,Sammy Serrano,Tyrone "Butterfly" Crawley to name a few more.These guys could be working a heavybag made of jello,and couldn't make it wiggle.
zuru
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 14:22
by KOJOE90
Billy Conn was a great fighter but wasn't much of a puncher at World level.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=009007
Barry Jones of Wales the former WBO Super-Featherweight Champion never knocked anybody out.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004879
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 14:39
by KOJOE90
mercman wrote:What about the lightest hitting heavyweights?
Chris Byrd?
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 15:14
by zuru
mercman wrote:What about the lightest hitting heavyweights?
Jimmy Young,Michael Dokes,Alfredo Evangelista,.......
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 16:21
by Seamus
Billy Conn was no big hitter for most of his career. Also Gianfranco Rosi. I think it might have been Gil Clancy who said he used to tell his fighters "Don't ever look at your opponent's low ko percentage and assume he can't hurt you, because if you do, before you know it you'll be on the canvas".
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Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 16:33
by barry
Cesar Rene Cuenca seems to be a current feater-fisted fighter with a record of 23-0-0 (1 KO) in 24 bouts, though I've never seen him fight.
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 18:36
by Seamus
Coming into the Pastor fight, Conn had fought only 2 heavyweights and his record was 50-10-1 (7 ko's)
lightest hitting
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 19:51
by wlvrne
Not at heavy......but Paul Spadafora - great boxing skills, weak punch.
Hector Camacho - don't count his TKO of Ray Leonard when they fought.
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 20:00
by Rory McCloskey
mercman wrote:What about the lightest hitting heavyweights?
that easily goes to slapsie maxie rosenbloom and tommy loughran
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 20:26
by kikibalt
Howard Davis could't at all
Posted: 02 Nov 2005, 20:51
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
jack sharkey u could mention cause he only had 14 knockoutss in his career but its very misleding because sharkey early in his career recorded most of his knockouts but due to terrible hand problems, he evolved into more of a boxer. but sharkey did have a hard left hook, he came close to knocking out dempsey early.
Re: Boxing's P4P weakest puncher???
Posted: 03 Nov 2005, 07:27
by Syntax Error
zuru wrote:Syntax Error wrote:We've had many debates about who's the hardest puncher, p4p in history, but who do you think is the weakest?
Which fighter couldn't knockout a greenfly with his best punch, yet alone another fighter?
I nomimate, British featherweight & Sugar Ray Leonard lookalike, Mr Colin McMillan!

He had very good skills, but virtually no power whatsoever!

Saoul Mamby,Nicolino Loche,Sammy Serrano,Tyrone "Butterfly" Crawley to name a few more.These guys could be working a heavybag made of jello,and couldn't make it wiggle.
zuru
Very funny, I like it!!!!! :P

Posted: 03 Nov 2005, 13:43
by KOJOE90
kikibalt wrote:Howard Davis could't at all
Good call.

Skilled fighter though, just seemed to lack enough pop in his punches and general ruggedness to win the big ones as a professional.
Posted: 03 Nov 2005, 13:46
by KOJOE90
zuru wrote:mercman wrote:What about the lightest hitting heavyweights?
Jimmy Young,Michael Dokes,Alfredo Evangelista,.......
I always thought Dokes power was slightly above average to be honest. Young wasn't a hard puncher as a rule but if he put his mind to hit he could dig to the body pretty hard.
Posted: 03 Nov 2005, 14:11
by BoxBuzz
On the occasions when I saw Dokes he never seemed a pitty patter to me.
and I never thought that "dynamite" was a terrrible misnomer. maybe not the greatest description but not the worst.
Posted: 03 Nov 2005, 14:19
by fight fan
Corrie Spinks is pretty light handed!
Except for the fight with Mundine which made him look like Marciano....... Sven Ottke is a light hitter!
Posted: 03 Nov 2005, 14:25
by fight fan
Michael Dokes was no Earnie Shavers, but he was not Maxie Rosenbloom either. He was an average heavyweight puncher at least. He had more than 50% of his opponents beaten by KO which is good! Doesn't belong on this list!
light punchers..........Dokes
Posted: 04 Nov 2005, 04:05
by zuru
Now I see quite a few jump to Dokes defense.I never said he was the weakest puncher,but when you think "heavyweight",you think power.And compared to many top heavyweights,Dokes didn't have it.He may have been tough,and had speed,but he wasn't a big puncher.Look back at his fights,and you will see.Again,I NEVER said he was the weakest,but he was( from the fights of his I have seen),not packing heavyweight power.He was tough,and definitely no push over,he was a quick fisted,strong chinned,light punching heavy.It's just my opinion.Everyone knows speed kills & surprises,like he did in the 1st M.Weaver fight, when the referee stopped the fight WAY too quick,as Dokes swarmed Weaver with stunning combos.I still think he belongs on the light punchers list,
zuru
Posted: 04 Nov 2005, 05:19
by Lenny
I think when Dokes would through those quick flashy combos then there wasn't much power at all in those shots and he was a bit of an arm puncher
however no way does he deserve to be mentioned with the lightest hitting heavys of all time