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Heavyweight title fights that never came off

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 01:14
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
had these fights took place who would have won


rocky marciano vs nino valdez


jack dempsey vs harry wills


jack johnson vs joe jeanette(when he was champ)


floyd patterson vs cleveland williams




my predictions


marciano KO 7 valdez- valdez style would have been made for marciano. rocky would have a lot easier time vs the bigger target slower slugger, than cagey faast slick master boxers charles, walcott, lastarza.


dempsey KO 4 wills- dempsey at his best against bigger men. wills chin could be dented.


johnson 15 unanimous jeanette


patterson 15 unanimous williams- i think patterson had the recup powers to get off the canvas if knocked down and trouble williams with his boxing skills like machen and terrell did. but williams could finish him early, especiaally a young patterson

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 08:30
by KO Artist
Bowe - Lewis

Bowe - Tyson

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 14:54
by JC
On the orginal bouts I'd take

Marciano by KO

Dempsey Wills is hard to say, as you mention Dempsey could deal with larger men but Wills knew how to use his size advatage rather than just lumbering in and presenting a big target.

johnson pts

Patterson close decision

Ones I'd like to throw in the mix

Foreman vs Holmes (late 70s)

Gene Tunney vs George Godfrey

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 15:33
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
tunney unanimous godfrey

holmes TKO 10 late 70s foreman- i dont know about prime 72-73 foreman


lennox lewis KO 8 Riddick Bowe

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 19:42
by thunderfromdownunder
didnt a bout between braddock and schmelling get cancelled?

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 21:52
by Rory McCloskey
sure did. braddock woulda won too!!

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 23:15
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
Rory McCloskey wrote:sure did. braddock woulda won too!!
i dont know about that, schmeling was the better boxer and harder puncher. it would be a close fight, but i give the edge to schmeling.

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 23:19
by BoxBuzz
rocky marciano over nino valdez


jack dempsey over harry wills


jack johnson vs joe jeanette Draw......


cleveland williams over Floyd Patterson. Williams by KO

Posted: 15 Nov 2005, 23:32
by Rory McCloskey
BB you may be right. i was just jokin around.. there was a thread on this a while back. i still cant pick a winner!! ahhh i dunno who to pick

Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 01:46
by hawaiianpunch
Lewis TKO5 Bowe, Bowe never convinced me he wasn't afraid of Lewis.
Tyson TKO3 Bowe. Bowe just got hit too much, that is bad against Tyson.
Holmes TKO10 (late 70's)Foreman. Prime Holmes UD over Prime Foreman.
Just for the hell of it, Vitali KO3 Rahman, if it did happen! :TU:

Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 02:43
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
hawaiianpunch wrote:Lewis TKO5 Bowe, Bowe never convinced me he wasn't afraid of Lewis.
Tyson TKO3 Bowe. Bowe just got hit too much, that is bad against Tyson.
Holmes TKO10 (late 70's)Foreman. Prime Holmes UD over Prime Foreman.
Just for the hell of it, Vitali KO3 Rahman, if it did happen! :TU:
what about

marciano vs valdez

dempsey vs wills

johnson vs jeanette(rematch during title reign)

patterson vs williams??


whats ur opinion on those

Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 12:29
by Rory McCloskey
dempsey vs. wills.... that would have been something.. its a shame it never happend, as i no they came close enough that they printed tickets and were about to have the fight take place, when dempsey backed out. i would venture to guess that dempsey would have probly won this fight. Wills was a great fighter and all but dempsey was beyond any fighter he ever met. And that left hook...i think that catches him i nthe mid rounds. 7-9 round fight with Dempsey swarming wills until he gives in nd loses by TKO

Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 16:30
by cybox
Larry Holes vs Gerrie Coetzee for the WBC/WBA never materialized in 1984

Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 17:37
by RazorKO
cybox wrote:Larry Holes vs Gerrie Coetzee for the WBC/WBA never materialized in 1984
Holmes wins if he doesnt go toe to toe with the Bionic man

Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 21:33
by Randineous
What about John L. Sullivan vs. Peter Jackson, which personally I think is one of the great missing pages from Heavyweight history?

Posted: 17 Nov 2005, 00:25
by dnahar32
Randineous wrote:What about John L. Sullivan vs. Peter Jackson, which personally I think is one of the great missing pages from Heavyweight history?
That's a good one. I think Peter Jackson was more skilled than Sullivan, but Sullivan had that stamina to last and last. The Jackson-Corbett fight was called a draw because the fighters were spent and going through the motions. The fighters did little fighting over the last hour or more. Sullivan went 75 rounds drinking brandy along the way to beat Kilrain. Plus, all the conditions and rules would have been stacked against Jackson even if he got a shot against the popular Sullivan.

I think Sullivan would have won in controversial fashion if they did meet. In a fair fight, I think Peter Jackson wins.