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I just got here 3 days ago, and have not seen this match up questioned yet. Prime Tyson VS Prime frazier ??? Any thoughts on that??
Or maybe Tyson VS Foreman ??

Frazier tko's Tyson late;Foreman ko's him early.

In his prime Tyson knocks both out rather quick! Now the post-prison Tyson would be a different story!

barry wrote:In his prime Tyson knocks both out rather quick! Now the post-prison Tyson would be a different story!

i agree with you barry, many people believe tyson was made for foreman. i dont think a peak tyson was made for foreman

Most people that make that claim do so on Foreman's easy win over Frazier, but they fail to realize that Frazier is not Tyson. Tyson had some of the fastest hands ever in the division and in his prime his defense was very, very good, put that with the fact that it took many rounds for any fighter to stop Tyson and you have a fornicating monster, which Tyson was in his prime. He would have been all over slow Foreman landing bombs that Foreman couldn't take. A pretty quick knockout for Tyson.

barry wrote:Most people that make that claim do so on Foreman's easy win over Frazier, but they fail to realize that Frazier is not Tyson. Tyson had some of the fastest hands ever in the division and in his prime his defense was very, very good, put that with the fact that it took many rounds for any fighter to stop Tyson and you have a fornicating monster, which Tyson was in his prime. He would have been all over slow Foreman landing bombs that Foreman couldn't take. A pretty quick knockout for Tyson.

not to mention frazier was overweight, slower, and not the same fighter whe nhe fought foreman thogh i believe any version of frazier gets knocked out



- but tyson was completely different from frazier.



tyson KO 2 foreman

Foreman intimidates the hell out of Tyson before they step into the ring. Game over, Foreman KO4

Tyson was awesome when he could get his opponent to move straight back in fear or lay prone against the ropes trying to cover up. This would not happen against prime Foreman. Foreman would greet Tysons rushes with devastating jabs, powerful right hands and strong arms shoves. Foreman was alot faster in his prime than alot of people give him credit and had a quick side step move to avoid rushes. Foreman TKO someting before the 3rd round.

Now Tyson beating Joe early I admit is a repectable opinion. But i respectfully disagree. Tyson would win the first few rounds decisivley. After being dropped a couple of time early in the fight Frazier would start to grind Tyson down. late in the fight with both his eyes closed Tyson would be helpless in the corner with Frazier wailing away. Frazier tko 11.

If Tyson doesn't stop Frazier early his will to win diminishes, and Joe smokes the smaller guy inside 10.

Cap

. Foreman was alot faster in his prime than alot of people give him credit

no he wasnt


- tyson hits just as hard, much fast handspeed, much more accurate short punches inside of foremans loops, foreman left himself wipe open a lot, tyson better combinations, etc

You guys are forgetting that the Frazier that Foreman fought was just as past his prime as Tyson was after prison. The Frazier of 1969 or 1970 would probably beat Tyson, and maybe Foreman. Both Tyson and Foreman were really 4- or 5-round fighters. Over 15 rounds, Frazier was the man.

Any version of Frazier loses to Foreman. In that fight there was no traces of a fighter who could have been competitive with Foreman let alone ever beat him. Frazier had to had been completely shot as a competitor when he fought Foreman if an earlier version of him would have scored a victory. We know this was not the case. I believe only two fighters in history definitlely beat Frazier, thats Ali and Foreman. and Foreman would always destroy him.