where did Tyson's power come from?

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 20 Nov 2005, 18:29

he must have been naturally hard hitting, because throws such short looping hooks. i think that the fact he could maintain such a hard hitting punch and have that speed was because he didnt have long slow punches, they were short n sweet, which one wouldnt think would be arguably the hardest punches delivered in boxing history.

evndrbsn · Post by **evndrbsn** » 21 Nov 2005, 00:49

Decagon wrote:Tyson's pure power is so overrated. He knocked people out with speed, technique and precision, not pure power. Watch one of his kayos in slow motion, and pay attention to how he puts his entire body into those punches.

That IS power.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 21 Nov 2005, 01:06

I can't stand Tyson, but I've never seen anyone hit the heavybag with more perfect power punching form (not even Squatdog) He's just a treat to watch the way he puts his full weight into every punch.

sockdolager · Post by **sockdolager** » 21 Nov 2005, 01:14

evndrbsn wrote:
Decagon wrote:Tyson's pure power is so overrated. He knocked people out with speed, technique and precision, not pure power. Watch one of his kayos in slow motion, and pay attention to how he puts his entire body into those punches.
That IS power.

HA! No kidding that is power! considering he put his whole body into it. Do you mean pure hand and arm power Decagon?

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 21 Nov 2005, 03:57

Decagon wrote:I'm talking about pure power, the type Rocky Marciano had. Tyson knocked people out by landing on the point of the chin when they weren't looking. Rocky Marciano could knock people out by hitting their arms.

i agree part of that was true, tyson was a technicially flawless puncher and part of punching power is tehcnique, accuracy, speed. but tyson defintley had snap into his punches and power. his power reminded me of joe louis, it woud paralyse you.

i mean look what happend when tyson lost his punching skills, even late in his career he knocked out people with 1 or 2 punches.

tyson knocked out larry holmes cold after that 3rd knockdown, no fighter not even in the 90s could come close to doing that

sockdolager · Post by **sockdolager** » 21 Nov 2005, 05:22

Its a little like a baseball swing, certian players have A perfect swing, others have mashing power, and some like Bonds (juiced or not) have both. Tyson had both in his percision and his right left hooks and uppers.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 21 Nov 2005, 06:21

Basically, Tyson had perfect technique and as a result his leverage was excellent.

His hand speed and combination punching was superb.

IMO he is the fastest punching HW of all times.

evndrbsn · Post by **evndrbsn** » 21 Nov 2005, 13:00

Decagon wrote:I'm talking about pure power, the type Rocky Marciano had. Tyson knocked people out by landing on the point of the chin when they weren't looking. Rocky Marciano could knock people out by hitting their arms.

Marciano, like Tyson, put his entire weight behind his punches.

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 21 Nov 2005, 13:58

Torque, pure and simple

zuru · Post by **zuru** » 21 Nov 2005, 16:15

Seamus wrote:I can't stand Tyson, but I've never seen anyone hit the heavybag with more perfect power punching form (not even Squatdog) He's just a treat to watch the way he puts his full weight into every punch.

Seamus,
Spoken like a true gentleman.Even if you don't care for somebody,one must give credit where it is due.I don't like Tyson(the person) either,but in his prime, man ,could he fight & punch,
zuru,

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 21 Nov 2005, 17:01

IMO he is the fastest punching HW of all times.

floyd patterson?

eversnb, good point. guys like tyson , marciano, louis they got there weight behind there punches. then u got guys like klitschko who clearly dont get there weight behind there punches, and that makes them less effective

wolverine1 · Post by **wolverine1** » 21 Nov 2005, 17:35

Brockton, I'd say all of the above, PLUS it helps if the puncher has the lateral muscle size that Tyson does. I think Holyfield's are actually bigger than Iron Mike's, but both those guys' lats are as big as my friggen leg.

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 22 Nov 2005, 07:49

tyson threw such short looping hook though i was watching him hit the bag sometime around 87, last night. its unbeleivable

iceman21287 · Post by **iceman21287** » 22 Nov 2005, 08:00

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
Decagon wrote:I'm talking about pure power, the type Rocky Marciano had. Tyson knocked people out by landing on the point of the chin when they weren't looking. Rocky Marciano could knock people out by hitting their arms.

i agree part of that was true, tyson was a technicially flawless puncher and part of punching power is tehcnique, accuracy, speed. but tyson defintley had snap into his punches and power. his power reminded me of joe louis, it woud paralyse you.

i mean look what happend when tyson lost his punching skills, even late in his career he knocked out people with 1 or 2 punches.

tyson knocked out larry holmes cold after that 3rd knockdown, no fighter not even in the 90s could come close to doing that

I recently watched an interview on ESPN Classic with Larry Holmes and when asked about the Tyson fight, he pointed out that when he was dropped for the final time, he was setting Tyson up for an uppercut and when he went to throw it his arm got caught in the ropes, which left him wide open and defenseless. That, according to him, was the reason that Tyson knocked him out cold. Now, I'm not sure if that's the reason why Tyson knocked Holmes out cold, but I went back to watch my copy of the fight in slow motion and sure enough, as Holmes said, he was attempting to throw and uppercut and got it caught in the ropes, which left him wide open and sure enough, Tyson nailed him and it was all over.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 22 Nov 2005, 08:02

He ate lightning, and crapped thunder... Of course.

ShoeShine · Post by **ShoeShine** » 22 Nov 2005, 13:02

His nuts

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 22 Nov 2005, 13:26

ShoeShine wrote:His nuts

Yeah I agree -- he's nuts.

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 22 Nov 2005, 18:05

holmes was getting dominated. he could not have won that fight. its just a nice sounding excuse.

where did Tyson's power come from?

where did Tyson's power come from?

tyson's ko power