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John Duddy

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 00:25
by Rory McCloskey
is it true that this fighter from ireland fights under the UK flag and is considered a british fighter?? i beleive i heard that recently

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 00:30
by josh fg
Can't find his record anywhere if he is from the north of Irelend the depending on his political and social background he may choose to call himslef British or Irish, for example Brian Maggee refuses to fight for the British Heavyweight belt because he sees himself as Irish

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 04:46
by Lenny
He'd also get knocked out by Skelton is a matter of seconds :lol:

I think he is from Northern Ireland and considers himself Irish

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 08:32
by cantona7
He's from Derry and in these parts very few people consider themselves british. He is also accomapanied to the ring by the Irish tricolor.

As well as this, his uncle was shot by the british forces in the bloody sunday massacre.

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 09:38
by TerribleTerry
On the reverse of this situation Lurgan's Dave McCauley is a unionist who considered himself British, not Irish.

He took great umbradge when at one fight in, I think, Spain they played the Irish national anthem Th Soldier's Song instead of God Save The Queen.

It was a small and easy to make mistake when you are dealing with the specifics of Northern Irish politics.

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 10:26
by Max Molyneux
Is it true that they can choose a British or Irish passport there?

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 11:01
by Achybreaky
Max Molyneux wrote:Is it true that they can choose a British or Irish passport there?
no

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 11:03
by John
Max Molyneux wrote:Is it true that they can choose a British or Irish passport there?
Yes, Eire will give a passport to anyone born anywhere within the island of Ireland.

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 11:10
by Achybreaky
my bad on this one and im from northern ireland.

Northern Ireland
About one third of the population in Northern Ireland wish to be considered as Irish citizens, while the majority considered themselves British. Britain contains a population of several million Irish-born people and their descendants. Until 1949, all persons born in Ireland who wished to obtain a British passport were granted one by the British authorities.

People in Northern Ireland are generally de facto dual citizens. Statistics for the number of Northern Irish residents who avail of this situation are not explicitly kept. However, 122,000 Irish passports were issued to residents of Northern Ireland between 1998-2003 [1] and a further 430,000 passports were issued by the Embassy of Ireland in London. An estimated two million residents of the Republic hold valid Irish passports.

Conversely, the British Embassy in Dublin issues 70,000 British passports each year to residents of the Republic [2].

Because of the reciprocal "non-alien" status of the two nationalities in each other's country, thus making it practically virtually irrelevant whether one holds Irish, British, or both, passports, the maintenance of British citizenship in Ireland or Irish citizenship in Britain can be seen as largely a personal political statement.

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 11:17
by johnswan1
We Irish have a fantastic national anthem. It was written back in 1907 as we repelled the British invasion.

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 13:23
by Boxingmad
My mum's Irish. Does that qualify me for an Irish passport or is to those with two Irish parentage? (I was born here in the UK as well)

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 13:30
by johnswan1
Don't know. Why would you even want one though? You're a true Brit - half British (I assume) and were born there.

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 15:59
by Boxingmad
johnswan1 wrote:Don't know. Why would you even want one though? You're a true Brit - half British (I assume) and were born there.
I wouldn't really want an Irish passport, but I'm certainly very proud of my Irish background. I just came back from my cousin's wedding there last week, and had a great time. Good to see all the family again. I'm there almost every year, been doing that since I was a baby.

Posted: 22 Nov 2005, 17:45
by split_decision
Lenny Albert wrote:He'd also get knocked out by Skelton is a matter of seconds :lol:

I think he is from Northern Ireland and considers himself Irish
Well he IS a middleweight