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BIGGEST BIGGEST LETDOWN IN HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE FIGHT?
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 06:33
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
WHAT WERE SOME FIGHTS THAT WERE EXPECTED TO BE GREAT, BUT ended very quick, were too onsided, or were boring?
heres some
marciano-walcott II
tyson-spinx
ali-liston II
holyfield-tyson II
dempsey-tunney I- dempsey past prime though, but it was a shutout
witherspoon-bonecrusher
holyfield-douglas
lewis-golota
lewis-tua- incredibly boring, both were scared shitless of eachother
i think the obvious one was liston-ali II, but spinx-tyson and walcott-marciano II fall close behind.
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 09:05
by kick asner
If you count the WBA version of the title then I would say Weaver-Tillis. Tillis ran the entire fight thus earning him the nickname James "Sprint" Tillis, while Weaver sleepwalked through fifteen excrusciating rounds. Watching a rerun of the royal wedding would have been more entertaining.
Also both Weaver-Dokes fights.
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 10:04
by dalek
brockton you are way out on lewis being scared of tua.he boxed his head off and didn't give him an opportunity to land.
anyway crap heavyweight fights...bowe-fergusson-geez it don't get much worse.tyson-seldon-pathetic.but ones that should have been decent but were not
lewis-akinwande
tyson-bruno2
lewis-grant(grant was WAY OVERRATED BY THE US PRESS)
Tyson-Bonecrusher.
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 15:27
by Collins2000
dalek wrote:brockton you are way out on lewis being scared of tua.he boxed his head off and didn't give him an opportunity to land.
anyway crap heavyweight fights...bowe-fergusson-geez it don't get much worse.tyson-seldon-pathetic.but ones that should have been decent but were not
lewis-akinwande
tyson-bruno2
lewis-grant(grant was WAY OVERRATED BY THE US PRESS)
Tyson-Bonecrusher.
Exactly. Anyone who actually watched that fight and thought Lewis was scared knows very little about the mechanics of a fight.

Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 16:17
by Syntax Error
Tyson -v- Bonclutcher Smith!
After Smith's mauling of Witherspoon & Tyson's demolition of Berbick, I was expecting some major fireworks!
I fell asleep watching Bonclutcher hug Tyson like one of those creatures out of the Alien films!

Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 18:06
by dempseyfire
my head was telling me a clear Lewis victory, but who wasn't still dissapointed by Tyson-Lewis after all that hype. I ended up thinking before the fight that perhaps Tyson would dig deep in the biggest fight of his life and make it competetive. But it was anything but that.
Re: BIGGEST BIGGEST LETDOWN IN HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE FIGHT?
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 19:05
by Nile4000
BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:WHAT WERE SOME FIGHTS THAT WERE EXPECTED TO BE GREAT, BUT ended very quick, were too onsided, or were boring?
heres some
marciano-walcott II
tyson-spinx
ali-liston II
holyfield-tyson II
dempsey-tunney I- dempsey past prime though, but it was a shutout
witherspoon-bonecrusher
holyfield-douglas
lewis-golota
lewis-tua- incredibly boring, both were scared shitless of eachother
i think the obvious one was liston-ali II, but spinx-tyson and walcott-marciano II fall close behind.
Was Witherspoon-Bonecrusher really expected to be great, being that Tim nearly shut out Smith the year before?
For me, it would have to be Page-Witherspoon.
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 20:33
by cybox
Holmes-Ali was all hype
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 21:48
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
ok, well i share a different opinion. lewis should have knocked out a fat, out of shape, slower tua.
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 22:12
by josh576
I was really hoping that holyfield would had tyson his ass over 12 rounds....i was very disappointed....$49.95 to see tyson bite his ear off....ahh im still pissed over that one
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 22:39
by Collins2000
BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:ok, well i share a different opinion. lewis should have knocked out a fat, out of shape, slower tua.
Would that be the same David Tua who often turns up out of shape and who has
NEVER been knocked out?

Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 22:54
by evndrbsn
Holyfield-Lewis was a huge, huge letdown.
Posted: 06 Dec 2005, 00:58
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
Collins2000 wrote:BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:ok, well i share a different opinion. lewis should have knocked out a fat, out of shape, slower tua.
Would that be the same David Tua who often turns up out of shape and who has
NEVER been knocked out?

you got a good point there, but the tua who came in at 225lb was a better tua.
- perhaps not knock out tua, but certainly show a lot more aggresion and land a lot more harder punches on tua, at least to knock him down!
rahman showed tuas chin is not immortal
Re: BIGGEST BIGGEST LETDOWN IN HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE FIGHT?
Posted: 06 Dec 2005, 04:03
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
Decagon wrote:BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:dempsey-tunney I- dempsey past prime though, but it was a shutout.
You gave Tunney the round where he was down for 14 seconds ?!?!?!?!?!
Tunney was down for 14 seconds in the 1st fight?? o man i didnt know that. i am going to have to go get out the tape and see what i missed. funny how ur the only one on earth who noticed a knockdown in the first fight!! ur something special!!
just jk decagon :P
Posted: 06 Dec 2005, 09:13
by kingpawn
dempseyfire wrote:my head was telling me a clear Lewis victory, but who wasn't still dissapointed by Tyson-Lewis after all that hype. I ended up thinking before the fight that perhaps Tyson would dig deep in the biggest fight of his life and make it competetive. But it was anything but that.
Agreed. We had a bunch of people over and put out a big spread and booze and turned Tyson-Lewis into a party. Then the fight comes on and Tyson pretty well mailed it in after the first round. Just sort of walked out there and accepted his beating. I don't recall any of the punch stats, but I bet he threw fewer than 20 punches a round those last three or four rounds.
Posted: 06 Dec 2005, 10:12
by Gordon
Holmes - Cooney
From the media build up, Gerry was going to win big time.
Posted: 06 Dec 2005, 10:38
by ShoeShine
Grant-Lewis.....all that hype and Grant goes and get KTFO!
let-downs
Posted: 08 Dec 2005, 15:37
by wolverine1
Brockton wrote: "lewis-tua- incredibly boring, both were scared shitless of eachother."<<
How could Tua be afraid of Lewis when he was the one going forward trying to engage Lewis. And Lewis didn't go straight back and run, he boxed circles around Tua. But clearly, neither was afraid of the other.
p.s. 1 biggest let-down I remember is the Tyson/Seldon "fight". Bruce was supposed to have this piston-like jab - at least against Joe Hipp - but didn't bust a grape against Tyson, and dove like an Olympian into the mat twice.
Re: let-downs
Posted: 08 Dec 2005, 23:12
by Collins2000
wolverine1 wrote:Brockton wrote: "lewis-tua- incredibly boring, both were scared shitless of eachother."<<
How could Tua be afraid of Lewis when he was the one going forward trying to engage Lewis. And Lewis didn't go straight back and run, he boxed circles around Tua. But clearly, neither was afraid of the other.
p.s. 1 biggest let-down I remember is the Tyson/Seldon "fight". Bruce was supposed to have this piston-like jab - at least against Joe Hipp - but didn't bust a grape against Tyson, and dove like an Olympian into the mat twice.
Yeah, that clown Seldon made Bruno's non-effort in his 2nd fight with Tyson look positively herculean...
I haven't seen the seldon 'fight' for a while but as I recall he went down from a punch that clearly missed him, got up hoping the ref was gonna stop it, but when it was clear he was gonna let it continue, Bruce The Goose appeared to faint.

Posted: 08 Dec 2005, 23:48
by josh576
hahaha that tyson seldon fight was completely horrible...what a joke
Posted: 09 Dec 2005, 10:26
by Syntax Error
josh576 wrote:hahaha that tyson seldon fight was completely horrible...what a joke
That was one of the biggest farces in HW history.
I don't know how either of them had any credibility after that, although it was Tyson's fault.
this
Posted: 09 Dec 2005, 15:09
by wolverine1
Syntax Error wrote:josh576 wrote:hahaha that tyson seldon fight was completely horrible...what a joke
That was one of the biggest farces in HW history.
I don't know how either of them had any credibility after that, although it was Tyson's fault.
How can you blame Tyson for that farce? Maybe the promoters, but certainly not Tyson himself.
Posted: 10 Dec 2005, 04:56
by Professor X
Tyson-Spinks
I could name many heavyweights that would have KO'ed Michael "Scared Stiff" Spinks within one round on that night. Primo Carnera would have done the same thing against that Spinks.
Posted: 10 Dec 2005, 05:02
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
Professor X wrote:Tyson-Spinks
I could name many heavyweights that would have KO'ed Michael "Scared Stiff" Spinks within one round on that night. Primo Carnera would have done the same thing against that Spinks.
yeah and I can think of many heavyweights who wouldnt lose to michael moorer or twice lose to riddick "im out of shape" bowe.
o yes, and past his prime or not tyson would never lose to a huggy bear like ruiz
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1200000/i ... own300.jpg
Tyson vs Ruiz
Posted: 10 Dec 2005, 07:25
by Cojimar 1945
I would think Tyson might have lost to Ruiz when past his prime.