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anyone giving Abraham a chance?
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 11:45
by Autobarn
Arthur Abraham and Kingsley Ikeke fight on sat, in germany, for the IBF m/w title vacated by taylor. Abraham has a tight guard and a huge punch, but will he be able to deal with the huge Ikeke?
My guess is Ikeke's crisp shots find a way through the smaller man's guard, and he controls AA on the outside. Personally I go for Ikeke, as Abraham seems to lack stamina and really telegraphs his shots: his right knee lifts up when he throws the right hand! not hard to see him coming.
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 11:55
by steve689
I am backing Ikeke for a late stoppage but this could turn out to be another Karmazin-Ouma with the one man surprising and dominating, doubt it though i'm just covering my arse. Abraham is tough so could last to points but i think he is too one dimensional to beat Ikeke who must be a nightmare to fight.
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 12:11
by E
The bookies have Abraham almost a 2-1 on favourite...
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 12:11
by MightyWarrior
I give Abraham a very decent chance here: homeground and he's a rough tough customer who could well throw the Nigerian giant off his stride, outworking him for a points win.
Maybe Abraham isn't that great, but how good is Ikeke? Should be an interesting fight.
What's the Smurf thing Abraham does with his entrance? Bizzare, got to be one of the worst routines ever seen!
Abraham UD.
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 12:14
by MightyWarrior
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 12:17
by kevin
MightyWarrior wrote:I give Abraham a very decent chance here: homeground and he's a rough tough customer who could well throw the Nigerian giant off his stride, outworking him for a points win.
Maybe Abraham isn't that great, but how good is Ikeke? Should be an interesting fight.
What's the Smurf thing Abraham does with his entrance? Bizzare, got to be one of the worst routines ever seen!
Abraham UD.
Father Abraham

Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 12:24
by J
7 sons 7 sons had father abraham...etc etc etc
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 12:29
by Kilburn
I'm expecting Abraham to be on the end of a steady beating.
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 12:30
by Coconut
I have an inexplicable urge to rhythmically remove all my clothes and dance around on chairs in the office...
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 12:37
by J
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 12:40
by Freiheit
Im backing Abraham, he will win around 8 rounds in the fight.
small note: When Sturm was asked to fight DLH, he was scheduled to defend his WBO belt vs Ikeke.
Abraham vs Ikeke is live on ARD, they are on from 22.35 to 01.00 (CET)
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 14:46
by glahn
Abraham hits hard enough to give anyone fits. I don't think I've ever seen Eastman as bothered by a guy's power as he was in that fight. If I can get past Ikeke's jabs often enough to land his own power shots, this one could be a bit of an upset.
Posted: 05 Dec 2005, 16:46
by RobD
I've only seen Abraham once and that was against Eastman. Based on that I don't give him much of a chance. He looked out on his feet through fatigue on a couple of occasions versus Howard. If Eastman had any devil in him he would have stopped him IMO.
Posted: 06 Dec 2005, 08:28
by Autobarn
I think Ikeke will dominate him. He knows how to use his height and reach, and Abraham seems a bit amateurish
Posted: 06 Dec 2005, 08:49
by numpty
Ikeke for me to. UD12...
Posted: 10 Dec 2005, 20:54
by Freiheit
Freiheit wrote:Im backing Abraham, he will win around 8 rounds in the fight.
small note: When Sturm was asked to fight DLH, he was scheduled to defend his WBO belt vs Ikeke.
Abraham vs Ikeke is live on ARD, they are on from 22.35 to 01.00 (CET)
*cough cough*
Posted: 11 Dec 2005, 06:07
by glahn
glahn wrote:Abraham hits hard enough to give anyone fits. I don't think I've ever seen Eastman as bothered by a guy's power as he was in that fight. If I can get past Ikeke's jabs often enough to land his own power shots, this one could be a bit of an upset.
*cough*

Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 06:02
by MightyWarrior
Abraham was a revelation - didn't miss a punch in there and everyone was a bomb.
Ikeke got the shock of his life, outclassed and hammered - he was being outjabbed by his shorter opponent. Everytime he opened up, Abraham just covered up and blocked everything, then came back with hammering blows up and down.
This guy will give anyone a life and death fight, Taylor included.
Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 06:26
by jomothepure
I don't know if this was mentioned on the other thread, but apparently Ikeke hadn't eaten for 30 hours before the fight in order to make the weight. Now I start shaking if a go without a Kit-Kat for half an hour, so God knows what Ikeke was like, must have effected him
Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 06:42
by MightyWarrior
Yes Ikeke's trainer needs a serious rethink - he's got the build of a light heavy, yet boils himself down to 160.
Showed a very good chin to take some huge shots off Abraham early, but took it's toll a few rounds later.
Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 07:01
by Kilburn
Got this one totally wrong, thought Ikeke would be too strong.
Still not convinced Abraham is going to be a long reigning champion.
Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 09:06
by J
not a good weekend for me kil hey!
congrrats to abraham though sounds like a great perfromance I thought based onthe eastman fight he would get his head jabbed off, obviously he is bwetter than we think.
problem being he has got winky to deal with.
id fight sturm first. Either way congrats to Bubi antoher german champ to add to the list.

Posted: 12 Dec 2005, 13:23
by steve689
steve689 wrote:I am backing Ikeke for a late stoppage but this could turn out to be another Karmazin-Ouma with the one man surprising and dominating, doubt it though i'm just covering my arse
Arse successfully covered
