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lennox lewis








rocky marciano







my picks



lewis KO 2 coetzee


51-52 marciano slugger KO 4 coetzee

54-55 marciano swarmer TKO 9 coetzee

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:lennox lewis








rocky marciano







my picks



lewis KO 2 coetzee


51-52 marciano slugger KO 4 coetzee

54-55 marciano swarmer TKO 9 coetzee

I suppose your basing your evidence on Coetzees ko loss to Bruno?... :x ... have you actually seen any other Coetzee fights?.... the man had a great chin, no way does he just get wiped out in 2 by Lewis.... as for the Marciano result you already know my feelings there. I'm not saying Coetzee would definately beat Rocky but I'd give him a good chance because of the styles...

Coetzee KO 2 Lewis

In the rematch, Lewis boxes ultra-cautiously and wins a boring 12 round decision.

Marciano TKO 13 Coetzee. Marciano, behind early, stops a fatigued Coetzee on his feet.

Before all bouts The Star Spangled Banner is performed by Jose Feliciano. There's a trivia question for you all. Before which non-fantasy fight did Feliciano perform it?

Gerrie Coetzee was usually dangerous in early rounds. Against LL it depends alot on whether his opponent is really pumped like he was against Golota or Grant, or more tentative which was usually how Lewis fought in the early rounds. Agressive Lewis KO's Coetzee in the 2nd, while the tentative Lewis has some trouble with Coetzee over the first 4-5 rounds, before he KO's the fading South African around the 8th.

Against Marciano, it would be like the bout with Leon Spinks only lasting a little longer. My first pick would be Coetzee scoring a 3rd round KO, but I do I hold out a slight possibilty that Marciano might survive perhaps three knockdowns and then catch a thoroughly exhausted Coetzee in the championship rounds and score a TKO.

I'm not saying Coetzee would definately beat Rocky but I'd give him a good chance because of the styles...

actually rocky matches up much better againt the bigger targeted slower sluggers than the smaller target , speedy master boxers.

rocky like dempsey loved the bigger guys even more because they were slower bigger targetss with less stamina.





i cant believe people are picking coetzee to possibly win.

if this were joe frazier vs coetzee would anyone be saying that??

i know for a fact the answer is no, because rocky tends to get underated here.







were talking about a different class of heavyweights here, not to mention coetzee was made for rocky in terms of styles.

Against Marciano, it would be like the bout with Leon Spinks only lasting a little longer

you have said enough, sorry to be disresctful but what u just stated was ur comparing rocky marciano to leon spinx.

What have you got against Leon Spinks ? The guy had heart and was fun to watch. He was done after the Holmes fight but before that he was a wildly agressive fighter.

Seamus wrote:What have you got against Leon Spinks ? The guy had heart and was fun to watch. He was done after the Holmes fight but before that he was a wildly agressive fighter.

yeah what u said was true,

but he was NO rocky marciano, not even close! and thats the truth also.



coetzee never beat a fighter that calibre of walcott, charles, or moore.

coetzee lost to less tier fighters like page, weaver, tate, snipes.

Coetzee wasn't slow though, I've got lots of his fights and he had good movement and fast hands. He also had a very good jab which he'd keep in Rockys face while waiting to launch the right. Remember how Rocky used to get cut up... against a hard quick puncher like Coetzee he would be bashed up facially at least pretty quickly, ...Rocky never fought anyone that punched like Coetzee...

silkov wrote:Coetzee wasn't slow though, I've got lots of his fights and he had good movement and fast hands. He also had a very good jab which he'd keep in Rockys face while waiting to launch the right. Remember how Rocky used to get cut up... against a hard quick puncher like Coetzee he would be bashed up facially at least pretty quickly, ...Rocky never fought anyone that punched like Coetzee...

Oh, I get it. You guys are just jerking BB's chain. 8)

The Great John L wrote:

silkov wrote:Coetzee wasn't slow though, I've got lots of his fights and he had good movement and fast hands. He also had a very good jab which he'd keep in Rockys face while waiting to launch the right. Remember how Rocky used to get cut up... against a hard quick puncher like Coetzee he would be bashed up facially at least pretty quickly, ...Rocky never fought anyone that punched like Coetzee...

Oh, I get it. You guys are just jerking BB's chain. 8)

:x :x :x i should have known!

this should shut people up for a while

for my new defense on marciano beating coetzee, i will simply say this ,


grep page KO 8 coetzee

mike weaver TKO 13 coetzee

john tate 15 unanimous coetzee


ENOUGH SAID!

Collins2000 wrote:Coetzee KO 2 Lewis

In the rematch, Lewis boxes ultra-cautiously and wins a boring 12 round decision.

Marciano TKO 13 Coetzee. Marciano, behind early, stops a fatigued Coetzee on his feet.

Before all bouts The Star Spangled Banner is performed by Jose Feliciano. There's a trivia question for you all. Before which non-fantasy fight did Feliciano perform it?

Thats how exactly how I see it. Some people think im saying Coetzee will definetly beat Marciano, of course Marciao has a chance but Rocky would have to wear down Gerrie until Coetzee is taken out in the 13th, but Rocky had better be prepared for fight which wears him out phyiscally.

But saying that I also think if Coetzee showed the skills he did against Dokes, Coetzee can outpoint Rocky to a comfortable decision.

, but Rocky had better be prepared for fight which wears him out phyiscally.

why are u questioning rocky's stamina and conditioning? are u that clueless??

rocky didnt get worn down, he wore out u!


what fights have u seen of rocky to make such statements?


the real answer to this gerrie coetzee had better be in the best shape of his life if he wants to survive 15 rounds with rock cause i know he cant keep up with rockys pace!

But saying that I also think if Coetzee showed the skills he did against Dokes, Coetzee can outpoint Rocky to a comfortable decision.

yes ur right because the drug addicted dokes was as good as marciano

i also agree that coetzee was a better boxer than walcott, charles, moore


i also agree marciano was not as good as mike weaver or john tate or greg page

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:

But saying that I also think if Coetzee showed the skills he did against Dokes, Coetzee can outpoint Rocky to a comfortable decision.

yes ur right because the drug addicted dokes was as good as marciano

i also agree that coetzee was a better boxer than walcott, charles, moore


i also agree marciano was not as good as mike weaver or john tate or greg page

Wheres the evidence that Dokes was on drugs when he fought Coetzee? Dokes was groomed for super stardom and was at his absolute peak, and Coetzee outboxed him nearly winning every round and knocked him out flat. If anything Dokes was drugged because he was put to sleep curtosey of Gerries bionic hand.

RazorKO wrote:

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:

But saying that I also think if Coetzee showed the skills he did against Dokes, Coetzee can outpoint Rocky to a comfortable decision.

yes ur right because the drug addicted dokes was as good as marciano

i also agree that coetzee was a better boxer than walcott, charles, moore


i also agree marciano was not as good as mike weaver or john tate or greg page

Wheres the evidence that Dokes was on drugs when he fought Coetzee? Dokes was groomed for super stardom and was at his absolute peak, and Coetzee outboxed him nearly winning every round and knocked him out flat. If anything Dokes was drugged because he was put to sleep curtosey of Gerries bionic hand.

ok lets say for a second thats true. either way that doesn help ur case because dokes was not a great fighter, and guyss like walcott moore charles would have schooled dokes.




and dont make exuses about the page fight, he was simply outclassed by the better fighter.



weaver knocked out coetzee. what makes u posibly think he could handle a marcino if he couldn handle weaver, or weavers pace?

RazorKO wrote:

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:

But saying that I also think if Coetzee showed the skills he did against Dokes, Coetzee can outpoint Rocky to a comfortable decision.

yes ur right because the drug addicted dokes was as good as marciano

i also agree that coetzee was a better boxer than walcott, charles, moore


i also agree marciano was not as good as mike weaver or john tate or greg page

Wheres the evidence that Dokes was on drugs when he fought Coetzee? Dokes was groomed for super stardom and was at his absolute peak, and Coetzee outboxed him nearly winning every round and knocked him out flat. If anything Dokes was drugged because he was put to sleep curtosey of Gerries bionic hand.

Okay, I can't help but to respond to this. A neighbor worked security for Dokes while he was in Akron for the Coetzee fight. According to him, Dokes attended parties nearly every night the week prior to the fight and was not sober at these parties. While he did not actually see him using drugs, he did see him drinking and he saw a lot of people using drugs. Based on this eyewitness evidence, I would say that it's a safe bet to say that Dokes was far from a well trained athlete that night.

Dokes was groomed for super stardom and was at his absolute peak

i like the overexaggeration there.


you know what i could say the same about rex layne a highly touted fighter coming off a win over jersey joe walcott(before he won title) and at his absolute peak when he fought rocky.

When they met, Layne was 34-1-2 with 24 KOs. He was favored 9-5 to beat Marciano, who was 35-0-0 with 30 KOs. Until they met, it was believed among the boxing experts that Layne, who was much bigger than Marciano, would knock Rocky out. Layne was 23 years old, Rocky was 27.
In the October, 1950 issue of Ring, Nat Fleischer had this to say about Layne:
"Layne looms as the outstanding prospect west of the Mississippi. He is a hard hitter...Layne has what it takes to be developed into the next world heavyweight king. He can hit and has an abundance of courage."

The Great John L wrote:

RazorKO wrote:

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:

yes ur right because the drug addicted dokes was as good as marciano

i also agree that coetzee was a better boxer than walcott, charles, moore


i also agree marciano was not as good as mike weaver or john tate or greg page

Wheres the evidence that Dokes was on drugs when he fought Coetzee? Dokes was groomed for super stardom and was at his absolute peak, and Coetzee outboxed him nearly winning every round and knocked him out flat. If anything Dokes was drugged because he was put to sleep curtosey of Gerries bionic hand.

Okay, I can't help but to respond to this. A neighbor worked security for Dokes while he was in Akron for the Coetzee fight. According to him, Dokes attended parties nearly every night the week prior to the fight and was not sober at these parties. While he did not actually see him using drugs, he did see him drinking and he saw a lot of people using drugs. Based on this eyewitness evidence, I would say that it's a safe bet to say that Dokes was far from a well trained athlete that night.

Without sources or links, your post means crap.
A lot of people credit Douglas for beating Tyson, why dont they credit Coetzee for beating Dokes.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:

RazorKO wrote:

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:

yes ur right because the drug addicted dokes was as good as marciano

i also agree that coetzee was a better boxer than walcott, charles, moore


i also agree marciano was not as good as mike weaver or john tate or greg page

Wheres the evidence that Dokes was on drugs when he fought Coetzee? Dokes was groomed for super stardom and was at his absolute peak, and Coetzee outboxed him nearly winning every round and knocked him out flat. If anything Dokes was drugged because he was put to sleep curtosey of Gerries bionic hand.

ok lets say for a second thats true. either way that doesn help ur case because dokes was not a great fighter, and guyss like walcott moore charles would have schooled dokes.




and dont make exuses about the page fight, he was simply outclassed by the better fighter.



weaver knocked out coetzee. what makes u posibly think he could handle a marcino if he couldn handle weaver, or weavers pace?

Weaver knocked out an exhausted green Coetzee and Coetzee still got up from Weavers best punch. Coetzee neglected the jab or his boxing skills and he just rushed in throwing wild punches against Weaver......and he still was ahead on the cards and nearly knocked Weaver out in certain parts of the fight. It was 13 rounds of brawling and you dont go toe to toe with Weaver, but Gerrie did and nearly won. After the Weaver fight Coetzee improved a hell of a lot of the fight and became a boxer-puncher similar to Holmes instead of just a brawler.

And plus Weaver hits just as hard as Marciano. His left hook is leagues above Marciano but Rocky has the better right hand.

a box puncher similar to holmes.lmfao.lol.

RazorKO wrote:

The Great John L wrote:

RazorKO wrote: Wheres the evidence that Dokes was on drugs when he fought Coetzee? Dokes was groomed for super stardom and was at his absolute peak, and Coetzee outboxed him nearly winning every round and knocked him out flat. If anything Dokes was drugged because he was put to sleep curtosey of Gerries bionic hand.

Okay, I can't help but to respond to this. A neighbor worked security for Dokes while he was in Akron for the Coetzee fight. According to him, Dokes attended parties nearly every night the week prior to the fight and was not sober at these parties. While he did not actually see him using drugs, he did see him drinking and he saw a lot of people using drugs. Based on this eyewitness evidence, I would say that it's a safe bet to say that Dokes was far from a well trained athlete that night.

Without sources or links, your post means crap.
A lot of people credit Douglas for beating Tyson, why dont they credit Coetzee for beating Dokes.

Because Dokes was no Tyson, thats why.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:lennox lewis

rocky marciano

my picks

lewis KO 2 coetzee

51-52 marciano slugger KO 4 coetzee

54-55 marciano swarmer TKO 9 coetzee

Lewis TKO 2 Coetzee

51-52 Marciano KO 5 Coetzee

54-55 Marciano TKO 7 Coetzee

RazorKO wrote:

The Great John L wrote:Okay, I can't help but to respond to this. A neighbor worked security for Dokes while he was in Akron for the Coetzee fight. According to him, Dokes attended parties nearly every night the week prior to the fight and was not sober at these parties. While he did not actually see him using drugs, he did see him drinking and he saw a lot of people using drugs. Based on this eyewitness evidence, I would say that it's a safe bet to say that Dokes was far from a well trained athlete that night.

Without sources or links, your post means crap.
A lot of people credit Douglas for beating Tyson, why dont they credit Coetzee for beating Dokes.

Are you calling me a liar? What a complete asshole you are. What type of a source do you want? I know the guy -- he's my neighbor. You want me to post his name and address? This isn't the type of thing a guy with a business publishes in a magazine. I live in Dokes hometown, and even worked with his cousin. Perhaps you should consider the possiblity that Dokes may not have been at his best that night, because I assure he wasn't.

Anyway you might want to take a realistic look at your idols record. Besides Dokes, his entire resume consists of a draw with Thomas, a win over an over the hill Tillis and a KO1 of Leon Spinks. He lost to every other quality fighter that he fought.