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Now this is a sophisticated one for a Monday morning gents, so be on your toes here.

Khan has now had 4 fights at pro, I would argue that path laid out for him by SN has been as you would expect.

Now, casting your mind back to when Khan made the decision to turn pro (with no senior am experience) did you at the time think he should have stayed as an amateur?

BUT, now you've seen him take his first steps as a pro, has that decision changed at all? Have you been won over by his career move, do you still think he should have stayed amateur, or did you favour his move to the paid ranks but now think he should have stayed amateur?

I thought he should have remained as an amateur for a while but my mind has changed slightly, everyone knew what his first 15 fights or so will be like, regardless of how long he spent in the amateurs.. It's just the way that SN (and other promoters) do business and who can blame them.

IMO?? whats that then?

In my opinion

I sympathise with you. When I was young and naive I thought lol stood for lots of love. I thought I was in with all these gorgeous girls who kept putting that in their text messages. Then I found out instead of blowing me kisses they were laughing at me. Damn that was a bad discovery.

I am glad he has turned pro,a future world champ

I think the whole preservation of the 0 has lead to some matches that he has not learnt a hell of a lot from. If he had not turned pro he would have thought in the world championships two weeks ago and been up against the worlds best boxers in hard fights. He would have learnt a lot considering he only had 14 ametre fights.

The question you have to ask is has he learnt more fighting David Bayley, Baz Carey, Steve Gethin and Daniel Thorpe I don't think that is the case.

It's a fact that whenever an amateur star turns pro he's going to get an initial batch of opponents which will ease him into the game and which will be of lesser quality than the top amateurs in the world. Especially over here, Sports Network won't be producing the next Pete rademacher. There's always a World, Euro, Olympic, Commonwealth amateur championship just around the corner which will provide better aggregate opposition over the course of a single year than the first year of a pro career. For that reason I don't think it's fair to say that he's not learned anything in the last year compared to what he could have been facing. But I think there's a storong argument that he left the amateurs without having learned enough.

Khan might think that the silver means he's second best in the world and the subsequent baton-passing affair against Kindelan justified his claim to be world best, but at his age there's a lot more that could be learned from decent amateurs. The idea that he's proved himself to be the best on the strength of one championship is daft - there'd be no end of benefit in facing off against a whole bunch of other guys, not to mention Kindelan's successor in the Cuban side. Different styles and all that. Then he'd come to the pro game a little more prepared.

Plus, as said above, if he can't live a boxer's life on 70k a year then Bolton's changed a lot since I was last there.

That said, continual testing against the best amateurs, domestic and pro, would throw up the odd mis-match as well as the odd tester. Easy wins and unseen losses wouldn't do a shed load for his earning potential. In that respect he's done what's right in the short and maybe medium term but I don't think in the long. However, the lad's got talent in spades.

Khan gave the recent World Amatuer Champion a pastin last year

2 standing counts as well

jomothepure wrote: In my opinion

I sympathise with you. When I was young and naive I thought lol stood for lots of love. I thought I was in with all these gorgeous girls who kept putting that in their text messages. Then I found out instead of blowing me kisses they were laughing at me. Damn that was a bad discovery.

Och yer erse. If you canny be ersed typing out the whole question instead of this idiotic half witted text talk shite then I cant be ersed voting in your poll.

YES. Need all the stars we can get in this ( pro ) game, and fast.

[quote="jomothepure"] In my opinion

I sympathise with you. When I was young and naive I thought lol stood for lots of love. quote]

You mean it doesn`t

I think the turn over to the pro ranks could/should have been a good thing, because the pro game is now so different to the amateur style.

Some years ago a gold medal singled a boxer out as atleast a future contender.
Not always, but enough times to make the effort worthwhile.

But Khan did not win gold.

And his fights so far have mirrored that of our other Olympic `hero`.

Ok, so Khan didn`t choose the opponents himself, but he couldn`t have done a better job if he did

Like Fr-Audley, he has fought smaller, non-punching fall-guys.

The BBC had enough with the whole A-Farce thing after something like 10fights, but will Khan be fighting anything better before then?

5yrs it took to confirm what most of us believed about Fr-Audley, will it take that long with Khan?

The turn over to pro should be to develop Khan into a better fighter not a better celebrity, his early fights should be telling us something about what his future might just develop into, but so far the opposition has been too poor.

This is not meant to disrespect the brave men that have so far faced Khan, far from it, they have shown bravery that Khan and SN have cowered away from so far.
Carey, Thorpe etc have been on a hiding to nothing from the time SN gave them the call.

SN may well waste a great tallent in Khan if they continue to doubt what he can do, give him a fight that isn`t 90% certain, let him show his mettle, it will get the viewers behind him and it will give Khan real belief.

After he beat Kindelan to avenge his Olympic defeat what more was there to prove as an amateur? The more pro experience the better. Most fighters from Mexico don't even have any amateur experience but still become great fighters.

The earlier you turn pro the more experience you get as a pro, therefore the better off Khan will be. Good decision. Whether or not he will become a world champion is still too early to tell. I just hope that allegedly doesn't weasel away his career fighting bums just like most of his other fighters.

perrycarter wrote:After he beat Kindelan to avenge his Olympic defeat what more was there to prove as an amateur? The more pro experience the better. Most fighters from Mexico don't even have any amateur experience but still become great fighters.

The earlier you turn pro the more experience you get as a pro, therefore the better off Khan will be. Good decision. Whether or not he will become a world champion is still too early to tell. I just hope that allegedly allegedly doesn't weasel away his career fighting bums just like most of his other fighters.

Some people are of the opinion that if you start too young you will burn out before you reach your prime.

That said, I am glad he turned pro when he did, just needs the right guidance along the way.

perrycarter wrote:After he beat Kindelan to avenge his Olympic defeat what more was there to prove as an amateur? The more pro experience the better. Most fighters from Mexico don't even have any amateur experience but still become great fighters.

The earlier you turn pro the more experience you get as a pro, therefore the better off Khan will be. Good decision. Whether or not he will become a world champion is still too early to tell. I just hope that allegedly allegedly doesn't weasel away his career fighting bums just like most of his other fighters.

Well, he beat Kindelan after spending ages preparing for him specifically in a bout which Kindelan didn't seem massively upset to lose. Kindelan was significantly better than him where it mattered and he could have still learned a lot fighting the many decent amateurs in the UK, Europe and beyond.

Mexican fighters who are thrown in at the deep end in the pros with no amateur experience are ten a penny and the cream rises to the top. In Khan, we supposedly already have the cream. The comparison doesn't hold water - Khan isn't going to be developed by fighting tough Mexican fellers in a Mexico City cellar, he's looking like he'll go down the basic journeyman route, gradually progressing to Eastern Europeans.

I think he could have been better prepared if he'd done some more learning in the amateurs. Now, the pressure's on, so the learning fights will be far fewer and the tough experiences more unusual.

I would like to see him move to america there is better sparing and a better class of Journyman there. Im also not convinced I rate his trainer.

You'd like to see him move to America????

So the yanks can claim he is theirs

no way

Tom Podmore.

jeej wrote:

perrycarter wrote:After he beat Kindelan to avenge his Olympic defeat what more was there to prove as an amateur? The more pro experience the better. Most fighters from Mexico don't even have any amateur experience but still become great fighters.

The earlier you turn pro the more experience you get as a pro, therefore the better off Khan will be. Good decision. Whether or not he will become a world champion is still too early to tell. I just hope that allegedly allegedly allegedly doesn't weasel away his career fighting bums just like most of his other fighters.

Some people are of the opinion that if you start too young you will burn out before you reach your prime.

That said, I am glad he turned pro when he did, just needs the right guidance along the way.

Medina, Morales and Barrera....all burned out young?

For his development as a fighter he wud have been better off staying amateur until the next olympics but I am glad he turned pro because he has been a real shot in the arm for british boxing.......even my old aunties are talking about him!!