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Censorship of the facts

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:06
by boxingchat
Why did my post stating 100% the truth regarding yesterday's purse offer get deleted.

Isn't free Speech is the essence of democracy? :box:

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:19
by nickd
Freedom of speech for everyone apart from you. :o

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:23
by Nels
I thought that universal sufferage, complete control of capital and exploitation of the proletariat formed the essence of democracy, myself...

Sorry, wrong meeting. Tomorrow night at the docks...

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:26
by jamesmcdonnell
Ahem.....presumably Steven Heath would agree with that...?

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:27
by Loynesy
If boxingchat's post was true and not libellous, why not print it? There has obviously been an almighty cock-up/misunderstanding somewhere on the purse bids.

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:34
by knockout
Loynesy wrote:If boxingchat's post was true and not libellous, why not print it? There has obviously been an almighty cock-up/misunderstanding somewhere on the purse bids.
I agree..... trouble is with spouting so much shit in the past he has lost his credibility...
I missed the original thread... anyone care to fill me in??

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:37
by boxingchat
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Ahem.....presumably Steven Heath would agree with that...?

Who's he?

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:38
by boxingchat
My topic was neither libellous or wrong. The info is public knowledge.

Box rec are turning into commies

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:38
by kevin
It was basically saying this with a little bit more gloating

From SecondsOut,com

"There is a bit of controversy regarding Maloney winning the purse bid as Fight Academy actually tabled the largest bid, of around £93,000.

However, the BBB of C disqualified that bid, saying Fight Academy's purse bid did not fulfil all of the rules and regulations.

The Board have a recent rule where a cheque for a percentage of the bid must be sent along with the bid. Fight Academy's bid arrived with no cheque but FA are arguing that they complied line-by-line with the Board's regulations as detailed on the BBB of C's website.

However, Fight Academy's Robert Waterman said: "I'll be speaking with the Board because I believe there has been an error here."

Waterman declined to comment further."

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:40
by boxingchat
Kevin wrote:It was basically saying this with a little bit more gloating

From SecondsOut,com

"There is a bit of controversy regarding Maloney winning the purse bid as Fight Academy actually tabled the largest bid, of around £93,000.

However, the BBB of C disqualified that bid, saying Fight Academy's purse bid did not fulfil all of the rules and regulations.

The Board have a recent rule where a cheque for a percentage of the bid must be sent along with the bid. Fight Academy's bid arrived with no cheque but FA are arguing that they complied line-by-line with the Board's regulations as detailed on the BBB of C's website.

However, Fight Academy's Robert Waterman said: "I'll be speaking with the Board because I believe there has been an error here."

Waterman declined to comment further."

Yes, point taken, but why take it off and leave on all the insults to Audley Harrison which are far worse, although perhaps deserved?

Makes a mockery of free speech.

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:46
by knockout
Ok, Magee V Froch fight....
so maloney won the bid, despite FA putting in the highest monetary bid..
Did hennesey bid???

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:47
by MightyWarrior
Never saw the post so no idea why it was deleated...

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:48
by kevin
knockout wrote:Ok, Magee V Froch fight....
so maloney won the bid, despite FA putting in the highest monetary bid..
Did hennesey bid???
Yes Hennessy came third apparently

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:48
by knockout
boxingchat wrote:
Kevin wrote:It was basically saying this with a little bit more gloating

From SecondsOut,com

"There is a bit of controversy regarding Maloney winning the purse bid as Fight Academy actually tabled the largest bid, of around £93,000.

However, the BBB of C disqualified that bid, saying Fight Academy's purse bid did not fulfil all of the rules and regulations.

The Board have a recent rule where a cheque for a percentage of the bid must be sent along with the bid. Fight Academy's bid arrived with no cheque but FA are arguing that they complied line-by-line with the Board's regulations as detailed on the BBB of C's website.

However, Fight Academy's Robert Waterman said: "I'll be speaking with the Board because I believe there has been an error here."

Waterman declined to comment further."

Yes, point taken, but why take it off and leave on all the insults to Audley Harrison which are far worse, although perhaps deserved?

Makes a mockery of free speech.

Boxingchat, you obviously know your stuff and make some good contributions... but like Kevin says, the gloating and the "my dads bigger than yours" attitude justs pisses everyone off....

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:50
by knockout
Anyone remember what the winning big for Froch V Dodson was?? £60k i think...

Calzaghe V Delaney was a huge purse for a british title fight too....

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:51
by boxingchat
Maybe so, but it get's you lot talking and my topic always make 2 pages!!!

The trouble is the majority of the people on here DON'T know their stuff, they just think they do.

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:52
by kevin
Boxing Chat, you mention the insults aimed at Audley Harrison were you surprised by the reception he received on Saturday? and do you think the national press have gone a bit over the top with their pieces on him?

Kev

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:54
by MightyWarrior
boxingchat wrote:Maybe so, but it get's you lot talking and my topic always make 2 pages!!!

The trouble is the majority of the people on here DON'T know their stuff, they just think they do.
I resemble that remark!

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:54
by boxingchat
knockout wrote:Anyone remember what the winning big for Froch V Dodson was?? £60k i think...

Calzaghe V Delaney was a huge purse for a british title fight too....

£70 ish I think.

Calzaghe V Delaney may have been bigger (inflation wise) in it's day.

Clearly though, Duff had a deal with Calzaghe as I would have thought
MH would have with Froch.

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 06:58
by boxingchat
Kevin wrote:Boxing Chat, you mention the insults aimed at Audley Harrison were you surprised by the reception he received on Saturday? and do you think the national press have gone a bit over the top with their pieces on him?

Kev

Not surprised by nthe reception at all. However, shit as he was, I think the Sun became a bit too personal.

All that happened on Saturday was that FW's continuous slattings were vindicated.

That WAS Audley Harrison - pure and simple. Danny Williams "an under achiever" had an awaful night and boxed crap and with a bad ankle and still pissed home with relative ease.

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 07:08
by Old bones Ian
Well done comrades, viva the revolution, now stop posting and get back down the salt mines

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 07:10
by knockout
boxingchat wrote:
knockout wrote:Anyone remember what the winning big for Froch V Dodson was?? £60k i think...

Calzaghe V Delaney was a huge purse for a british title fight too....

Calzaghe V Delaney may have been bigger (inflation wise) in it's day.
I think so... i am sure Delaney got £50k himself...

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 07:14
by boxingchat
Back to tne original subject, why did my topic get deleted? Do Waterman and Hobson have an unhealthy influence on Box Rec?

If not, put it back up in the interests of democracy.

Other Promoters and people get sluaghtered on here, without censor, so why are Steptoe and Son exempt?

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 07:17
by boxingchat
My spelling is getting as bad as FA' admin! :oops:

Posted: 15 Dec 2005, 07:18
by kevin
boxingchat wrote:Maybe so, but it get's you lot talking and my topic always make 2 pages!!!

The trouble is the majority of the people on here DON'T know their stuff, they just think they do.
Agree with the last comment but a lot of the time we just don't get to here the real facts as is the way with a lot of businesses.

One of the things I wanted to do was get a better insight of how the board works and some of the rules and regulations, but even the board seem to want to play their cards close to their chests.

It would be great to do a series of features like a week in life of a promoter/manager/matchmaker or even press officer!

Kev
http://www.britishboxing.net