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Judah Defeated!!!!!!!

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 01:06
by JimmyJamJerusalem
Unbelievable!! Upset of the year, already, lol.

By going on what the Yanks have been saying boring fight, where Judah didn't assert himself.

I was looking forward to seeing Judah v PBF, looks like that's scuppered now

Re: Judah Defeated!!!!!!!

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 01:31
by shoutout
JimmyJamJerusalem wrote:Unbelievable!! Upset of the year, already, lol.

By going on what the Yanks have been saying boring fight, where Judah didn't assert himself.

I was looking forward to seeing Judah v PBF, looks like that's scuppered now
definitely the upset of the year!! :lol: :lol:

judah is taking after his close friend & homeboy mikey tyson & going downhill fast!!! i knew his chin wasnt all that great & expected PBF to stop him in late rounds, but i really didnt think the LIGHT-HITTING baldomir could hurt him...

pack it in, zab---you're finished at world-class level!!!

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 04:18
by Neri
Shocking. Had heard Baldimir was a tough guy but i never expected him to pull it off. Anyway look for Mayweathers obsession with the green belt make Mayweather-Baldomir next, but hopefully he will look for the dollar signs in Hatton.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 05:47
by Freiheit
Baldomir only paid sanctionfees to WBC so the WBA belt now belongs to Luis Collazo who will defend it against Oktay Urkal. IBF is now vacant.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 07:34
by dondada
Freiheit wrote:Baldomir only paid sanctionfees to WBC so the WBA belt now belongs to Luis Collazo who will defend it against Oktay Urkal. IBF is now vacant.
I simply can't be bothered to keep up with all the belts comings and goings so thanks for this, Freiheit.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 07:43
by liamlion
On the back of this result, surely Mayweather's only real superfight in and around light-welter and welter is a fight with Ricky Hatton.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 07:48
by Freiheit
My bet is that Mayweather fights and beats Baldomir to become 4 division champ. Then he might look at the 154 division.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 08:09
by KOJOE90
liamlion wrote:On the back of this result, surely Mayweather's only real superfight in and around light-welter and welter is a fight with Ricky Hatton.
Or Cotto?

Shock result for Judah apparently the scores were 115-113, 115-112 and 114-113. Don't know where he goes from here, maybe a non-title rematch with Tszyu but would that really generate any interest and money anymore?

So it looks like we are just one week into 2006 and one Superfight has already bit the dust. Oh well that's Boxing.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 08:12
by lvlarc
It was a dramatic night, both fighters, JMM and Zab losing. Was well shocked at the JMM fight as he was dominating so well in the early rounds.


Lets hope Calzaghe-Lacy doesn't fall through. And hope that Hatton will go on to fight PBF.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 08:24
by Freiheit
The scores for Mormeck vs Bell at the time of the stoppage. Bell were leading on two cards.
Tom Kaczmarek 87-84 | Judge: Tom Schreck 85-86 | Judge: Steve Weisfeld 86-84

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 08:30
by stujones
Surely a chance for Cory Spinks also to get back to world honours.

Huge upset.

Looking at Baldomir's record, you'd have to give Eamonn Magee a decent shout vs him. He's had a tough career and is 34.

I bet Urkal is gutted at this, sounds like he is now facing the toughest champion (excluding the WBO king, Margarito).

re

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 08:34
by barry
>>>I bet Urkal is gutted at this, sounds like he is now facing the toughest champion<<<

How about belt-holder instead of champion? Baldomir is the only champion, the others are just belt-holders!

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 08:45
by KOJOE90
stujones wrote:Surely a chance for Cory Spinks also to get back to world honours.
Can Cory make 147lbs anymore though? I thought he was intending to move up to Light-Middleweight?

If he can make Welterweight and still be strong I agree Spinks may have a chance of regaining his crown, which as a Spinks fan I would like to see of course.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 08:50
by Podmore_Birmingham
Shame ... Urkal is turkish (and i have turkish heritage) its a shame , always the bridesmaid never the bride...

I actually do fancy Urkal to sneak thewin.. his losses to Harris flatter to decieve , the first fight i thought he won and the second .. well he could no longer make weight , he couldnt move like he usually does.

Tom Podmore.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 08:50
by Goz
Big upset indeed.

I also wonder if Hatton might fancy collecting a title or two at Welterweight now?

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 08:55
by Freiheit
I suspect that King has options on Baldomir, so maybe its Baldomir vs one of King's welterweights next, maybe even a unification vs Collazo?

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 09:15
by jamesmcdonnell
Well, thank god Baldomir didn't get shafted, as it sounds like a close result. It's put a fly in the ointment

I thought that Judah would muller Baldomir, but it looks like the result against Spinks showed he was ok against a slippery guy who didn't punch a lick. Baldomir sounds like a lot of those tough South Americans, wild and wooly but just keeps on coming and coming.

I guess that Zab will always do well against guys who retreat from his punch power, but not so well against those who take the shots and keep pressuring him.

At Welter there are too many guys who are going to be able to hurt him methinks.

Shame the big fight of the year got scuppered, but I'm happy for Baldomir.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 09:16
by Old bones Ian
What makes this all the more shocking is the fact that Baldomir won on points, i thought that the only way he could win was to get lucky with a punch and knock Judah out.

Judah did come in overweight, so maybe he didn't quite prepare as he should have, reading the reports it looks as if Judah was incharge till the 7th when he almost got stopped, Baldomir then took over.

Shows that Boxing is still a great sport, I love it when a quiet understated guy shows up the loud mouth Champion.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 09:26
by stujones
To be honest though James, I thought Cosme Rivera had a similar style (and similar record) to that of Baldomir - and Judah handled him with ease.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 09:48
by Old bones Ian
stujones wrote:To be honest though James, I thought Cosme Rivera had a similar style (and similar record) to that of Baldomir - and Judah handled him with ease.
My thoughts as well

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 11:40
by steve689
Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Shame ... Urkal is turkish (and i have turkish heritage) its a shame , always the bridesmaid never the bride...

I actually do fancy Urkal to sneak thewin.. his losses to Harris flatter to decieve , the first fight i thought he won and the second .. well he could no longer make weight , he couldnt move like he usually does.

Tom Podmore.
Och, i wrote a massive post and then deleted it by accident :cry: Hence to say not surprised by Mormeck's loss, let's hope Mayweather drops to LW and fights Hatton or Cotto rather than pick off Baldomir and Urkal has too many miles on the clock to beat the fresher Collazo :TU:

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 11:52
by E
Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Shame ... Urkal is turkish (and i have turkish heritage) its a shame , always the bridesmaid never the bride...

I actually do fancy Urkal to sneak thewin.. his losses to Harris flatter to decieve , the first fight i thought he won and the second .. well he could no longer make weight , he couldnt move like he usually does.

Tom Podmore.
Are you an Amateur boxer? (Or maybe your son...) I am sure I have read of a Tom Podore in boxing news with Turkish heritage, but then from your posts it seems you cover shows too.

Cheers!

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 12:04
by silkov
I'd like to see Margarito get a shot at the other belts, from what I've seen of him he may be the best of the bunch though he's never talked of much....

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 12:28
by steve689
Margarito is an all action sort who throws a lot of punches but takes a few in return as well, he has been knocking around the Welterweight/Light Middleweight scene for a while now but hasn't had any significant breaks as far as big fights go. He looked good when he took off all of Andrew Lewis's six heads a couple of years ago and he also had a good tear up with Antonio Diaz, however he struggled with the slickness of Daniel Santos and i think that indicates how he would fare if he went in with Mayweather or Judah.

Posted: 08 Jan 2006, 12:37
by Podmore_Birmingham
E wrote:
Podmore_Birmingham wrote:Shame ... Urkal is turkish (and i have turkish heritage) its a shame , always the bridesmaid never the bride...

I actually do fancy Urkal to sneak thewin.. his losses to Harris flatter to decieve , the first fight i thought he won and the second .. well he could no longer make weight , he couldnt move like he usually does.

Tom Podmore.
Are you an Amateur boxer? (Or maybe your son...) I am sure I have read of a Tom Podore in boxing news with Turkish heritage, but then from your posts it seems you cover shows too.

Cheers!
I was an amatuer boxer , untill i became a diabetic ..... im only 19 so i have no son!!!.

I have appeared in the amatuer section of Boxing news before untill my retirement..

Tom Podmore.