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Respected posters a couple of people have complained about me being a moderator on this forum so I am asking you what do you think about the forum, is it moderated in a good and productive manner, or is it moderated poorly. This only pertains to the "boxers of the past" forum. Has it been moderated fairly and in a decent manner, or does there need to be new representation take over as moderators?

No repercussions, say what you want, but those who have a grudge against me, well you guys don't count, sorry...but if others have an issue that I do not know about, then that is fine and I will listen to what you have to say and if you want me to quit I gladly will, but there has to be a majority to make that happen. I would put a poll up, but that would just give those with the grudge an opportunity to sign-up under many different aliases, so this way the people who answer should be taken serious. This thread will run for a couple of weeks and see what people think of how this section of the forum is currently run!

You have to be an active member of this forum as well.

No problem here. I have read some of your post and I’m my opinion you just call it like you see it and there is nothing wrong with that. I haven’t been here for too long, but so far for me this forum is great. Mr. Barry you seem to have a lot of knowledge of boxing and I respect that, and I don’t know about the other posters in here, but no problem with me. Hope you don’t have to quit. Just my opinion. Please excuse my English grammar.

barry wrote:Respected posters a couple of people have complained about me being a moderator on this forum so I am asking you what do you think about the forum, is it moderated in a good and productive manner, or is it moderated poorly. This only pertains to the "boxers of the past" forum. Has it been moderated fairly and in a decent manner, or does there need to be new representation take over as moderators?

No repercussions, say what you want, but those who have a grudge against me, well you guys don't count, sorry...but if others have an issue that I do not know about, then that is fine and I will listen to what you have to say and if you want me to quit I gladly will, but there has to be a majority to make that happen. I would put a poll up, but that would just give those with the grudge an opportunity to sign-up under many different aliases, so this way the people who answer should be taken serious. This thread will run for a couple of weeks and see what people think of how this section of the forum is currently run!

You have to be an active member of this forum as well.

barry, how do you determine if someone has a grudge against you?

Would that be anyone who has disagreed with one of your abusive rants?

You really are a funny little man.

(..later...)
No repercussions? I see you are deleting posts from this thread too. You are out of control, mate.

How do I know who has a grudge...you and Decagon just answered it! Collins2000, Decagon and theone are the three with a grudge, which that's about all that I know of on this forum, but this is not going to be another argument thread for you two, so anything else you type on this thread will be deleted...keep it in your one thread that you two continue to rant it!

I personally haven't had any problems with the way the forum is moderated.

Barry,
this forum is excellent, demanding, and difficult because it is necessary to know very much of the rich boxing history for support a respected opinion or criterion. I'm glad with this forum, the subjects and the participants. I deplore if really is a grudge against you; of course, I don't know the "reasons", but I thinks that you are a great boxing connoisseur and a very good moderator. Please, continued your hard and valuable work in this site

this forum is great. unlike the current scene, I hadnt seen any big problems in a while between posters, just friendly disagreements. I see hardly any threads that turn into personal attacks. the moderators are great in 'boxing of the past' section, they delete slander and uneeded posts like when decagon said "i think its funny marciano was decapitated". moderaters here voice there opinion, and do there job. simple as that. barry iss a great moderater with a strong opinion. he only personally attacks u if u attacked him first from what i seen. plus barry has a lot of knowlege to offer and u can learn a lot about the old fighters from him.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote: "i think its funny marciano was decapitated". .

He really said that!? . That is just plain sick.

i like this forum.its a great way to pick up extra knowledge.i've had my disagreements with barry,as i have with decagon and theone.i think overrall it is run very well,sometimes barry may come over all excitable but he is passionate about the sport.overrall he must be doing a good job as there seem to be less trolls here than elsewhere.

Nope I have no issues with you Barry. This forum is a million times better than the current scene

I have been reading this forum for a few years now, and i think it is the best boxing forum as far as boxers of the past ( as i am only new to boxing and dont know much about the past )

I read through all the Nortan vs Sam thread and i dont want to attack you in anyway Barry, but i think you did go a little overboard with the " i am a boxing expert you guys dont know crap and i refuted you " type attitude, or the personal attacks such as " You cats " or "your uneducated ". As an op i thnk you have to refrain from that level of language. Other than that i see your arguments as being really interesting, even though i didnt agree with you on the topic i just mentioned...

Anwyays just cool it down a little and chill out

Forum is great but you need to agree with me more...

I'm reluctant to post on this thread ......... but I think Trent summed it up pretty well above.

Nobody has come out of the Langford v Norton thread with any credit. After all, when you are comparing fighters from different era's, there is no right or wrong answer ........ it is just opinion.

When things start to get personal, sometimes the best response ....... is no response.

As I said, I respect all of your opinions and thank you to those of you who have posted here so far. As I had suggested that I would do last night I deleted those threads as they were ridiculous and not something that I like to see on this forum, although I was in the arguement.

I enjoy reading the posts on this forum (boxers of the past) and I try to post on here when I feel like I have something to contribute. I dont ever get into arguments over here unlike the current scene. I have no problem with Barry as a moderator and I think his oppinions are solid.

I read a lot more than I post. But, either way, I have no problems with the way things are right now. I don't know if you and I (Barry) have ever even particiapated in the same thread.

Really, unless someone posts something that just about everyone else knows is ludicrous, I rather like reading the arguments you guys get into. Why not keep the anarchy for entertainment value? Because, if someone posts something and an argument breaks out, it's easy enough to tell who's winning the argument. Usually it's the guy who holds back on the insults and tries to present his position rationally and logically.

First rule of debate -- keep your cool. Don't lower yourself to insults. You only lower the strength of your own argument. The moment you've lost your cool, you've lost the debate ... no matter how right you are in your own mind!

Well we have tried to clean up the place from petty arguements, trollers and others just looking to start crap, but arguements do break out on occasion and of course I'm sure I miss a lot, but for the most part I try to keep the nonsense to a minimum, but if I end up in the argument then if I delete the post the person whines and says well you're just trying to cover your tracks, or something else equally as silly, which is the only reason I let the langford and Johnson thread for as long as I did, but like I say to anyone and also why I was very defensive about that thread, I cannot stand for someone to try to pass off their assumption based on absolutely nothing and try to present it as fact and I will always call someone on crap like that. As I have said opinions are find, but don't try to change facts...that's what I and many others work very hard to try and eradicate, all the bogus tall-tales and other incorrect data that has slipped through history and when someone comes along and starts trying to pass off incorrect statements then it makes it that much more difficult for some of us to correct again as it is so easy for bogus information to spread like a cancer over the internet, so like I suggest to most anyone, which includes myself...if you don't want to be made to look dumb then please do not try to comment on issues that you honestly do not know about...I don't give a shit as to how anyone gives their opinion to a topic, but when they try to pass incorrect statements off as fact, well I do speak up and a lot of times people cannot accept being wrong so they get personal, then I get personal and it turns out getting very ugly, but there really isn't any room for it on this forum!

The way I see it barry you can be sort of an annoying traffic cop, but with that said I've learned that if you go the speed limit, keep it between the lines and stay civil things work out. Probably about what your supposed to do in your position.

You also have some passion and can get caught into some pointless battles with people who are looking for a problem and sort of set you up. Some of them are mindless and deserve your static, others are looking for a fight and they deserve your static too. I'd just avoid the bait if I were you. Speak softly and carry a big stick.

and if you can't.... so be it.
You may not always be right, but your always the moderator. And though you may be controversial at times you get the job done.

It's not always easy to ignore an obvious attempt to bait one into a dart throwing match. When I first came on board, I had a very mild little scrape with BrocktonBlockbuster over Holmes and his hero, Marciano, which ironically was the topic of another recent thread which, to my surprise, went down rather quietly.

But, really, all this zeal ... I believe people who feel SOOO inclined to argue their point SOOO vehemently do so because they actually have some doubt about what it is they're trying to say. There's a great paragraph in a book called "Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance" where the author talks about this very thing. You don't hear anyone running around shouting the sun will rise tomorrow because we already know that. It's when what's argued is actually in doubt that people get so worked up about it.

Of course, the author was applying that to political and/or religious arguments. But what the hell's the difference. If you're confident what you have to say is logical and makes perfect sense, what's the point of arguing about it. You can just say it and, of course, every sensible reader of the forum will have read it. And the dart throwers will throw their darts and ...

In the whole scheme of things, it ain't all that important anyway.

kingpawn wrote:It's not always easy to ignore an obvious attempt to bait one into a dart throwing match. When I first came on board, I had a very mild little scrape with BrocktonBlockbuster over Holmes and his hero, Marciano, which ironically was the topic of another recent thread which, to my surprise, went down rather quietly.

But, really, all this zeal ... I believe people who feel SOOO inclined to argue their point SOOO vehemently do so because they actually have some doubt about what it is they're trying to say. There's a great paragraph in a book called "Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance" where the author talks about this very thing. You don't hear anyone running around shouting the sun will rise tomorrow because we already know that. It's when what's argued is actually in doubt that people get so worked up about it.

Of course, the author was applying that to political and/or religious arguments. But what the hell's the difference. If you're confident what you have to say is logical and makes perfect sense, what's the point of arguing about it. You can just say it and, of course, every sensible reader of the forum will have read it. And the dart throwers will throw their darts and ...

In the whole scheme of things, it ain't all that important anyway.

great post

Boxers of the past is my favourite forum, it can get a little silly sometimes but it is a million times better than the rubbish that pops up all to often in the British scene...and I hear the current scene is even worse (I rarely visit).

Here, we do have a better selection of people who know what they are talking about, even if they don`t always agree with me :x

My visits to the British scene sometimes get me frustrated, a couple of people there must have bought a boxing magazine for 2-3mths and straight away they know everything, and even fancy themselves as a writer also

Barry, you are one of the select few here I enjoy getting a reply from...even if you too don`t often agree with me

I give this board high a rating due to the fact it is the best boxing source I know of that offers useful information that you might not have gotten anywhere else. The crap post are kept to a minimum not only becuase of the moderators, but also the members help to police the board by calling the author of the nonsensical post on it and pointing out his folly. Not wanting to endure further humiliation the originator of the foolish post drifts into oblivion.

Yep they drift right into Bolivian.

Well I certainly have to say thank you guys for the support...it really means a lot considering that I have never had any debates and don't really know close to half of you. It's like someone else stated, it's not just how the forum is moderated, the biggest plus in my eyes are you guys because you bring good debate and passion into the sport that we all love with out the childish crap that ruins a lot of forums on the net. As always my mailbox is always open and if you guys see something out of line that I don't then please let me know, and if I am out of line keep me in check to because as many know...it doesn' take much to get me started, but I'm certainly not above any of you guys and I really appreciate and look forward to the topics and debate that you guys bring to the board every day...thanks again for your support!

barry you haven't sent me any money lately, other than that your doin good.