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Why Carlos Ortiz is rank as #1 world All Time Lightweight? And Roberto Duran is #10. What is the logic of this? For me Duran is #1 in the all time list at that weight class and very close second is Armstrong. So who can explain this?

borinken25 wrote:Why Carlos Ortiz is rank as #1 world All Time Lightweight? And Roberto Duran is #10. What is the logic of this? For me Duran is #1 in the all time list at that weight class and very close second is Armstrong. So who can explain this?

I believe the rankings are based wins/losses/draws... Quite useless really.

For the sake of argument - here are my top lightweights:

Greatness:

1. Roberto Duran
2. Benny Leonard
3. Joe Gans

Head-to-head:

1. Roberto Duran
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Pernell Whitaker

borinken25 wrote:Why Carlos Ortiz is rank as #1 world All Time Lightweight? And Roberto Duran is #10. What is the logic of this? For me Duran is #1 in the all time list at that weight class and very close second is Armstrong. So who can explain this?

The formula doesn't really work for all-time fighters.

Then again, it doesn't work that well for current fighters either

In all seriousness the formula can't be taken any more seriously than RPI rankings in college basketball or BCS rankings in college football. It can't give true rankings in the sense that their #1 is really #1. What it can do is group fighters together and give you an idea of who the top fighters of all-time were. If you are looking for a formula that can truly rank the top fighters of all-time accurately, it won't be found. So much of boxing is based on subjectivity and opinion. That, and the fact that there aren't really statistical numbers to crunch like in any other major sport, make any boxing rating formula nothing more than a fun thing to look at in your spare time.

this explains why Jack Johnson is rated at like 93 all time.