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Wishing it was yesterday

Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 12:15
by bill.lockhart
Don't you wish you could turn back the clock of time ? Their is no sporting event more important than the night the champ, THE CHAMP puts the heavyweight title on the line. Their was a time when the heavyweight champion was the biggest name in sports.
The King of the world. Wishing it was yesterday.

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Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 12:31
by barry
Too bad time-travel could not be a reality. It would be neat to go back and watch the all-time greats.

Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 15:03
by silkov
Yeah I'd like to go back to the time when people would discuss boxing in the street, home etc... when the daily papers printed the build ups etc of donmestic title bouts... I came around at a time when boxing importance was sort of tailing off but you could still call it a major sport, but its just gradually becoming more and more a sport on the sidelines or rather for some 'entertainment' like wreastling, boxing today is almost a different sport to what it was even 20 years ago.... :x

Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 17:42
by BoxBuzz
Lads....it's all about the "feminization" of our cultures. Fighting for anything even things that truly matter seem to be suspect these days. So the "fighting spirit" has been devalued. What many do not understand is that boxing was never about graphic exploitive violence. It was heart and soul about the human wish for the "championship spirit". A champion emboided "good" . (Whether he actually personaly did or not is another matter)

Movies like Braveheart and The Patriot are sort of a helpful reminders, but in the current sentiment of "what flavor,size, and frothiness will my cappucino be" fighting for anything does not seem to have much impetus.
I hope there will always be "critical mass" of that needed memory within our cultures to pull us out if we find ourselves on the ropes as societies.

I really don't think I'm on a rant when I say that "masculinity" in general is a bit under attack. We are shown to be bumbling neanderthals that are only in favor if we find our "feminine" side.....e.g. Brokeback mountain.

I liked it better in the days when what was in vouge was the girl in "Alien" hopping into a mechanical assist and putting a world of "masculine day saving testosterone-like hurt" on the evil space alien.

I'm always optimistic. I'm also a guy who is not overly in touch with his femine side, but my wife and daughter continue to have high hopes for me.

Wishing it was Yesterday

Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 19:02
by bill.lockhart
Boxbuzz, that was pretty good. I agree. Boxing is more about the will to win than the skill to win. Look at the popularity of Cinderella Man. A film depicting the triumph of the human spirit. The championship meant something back then. The champion wasn't just the toughest guy on the planet. He was a man every kid could look up to as the epitomy of sportsmanship. A real warrior, but also a fine gentleman.

Posted: 28 Jan 2006, 21:59
by Expug
BoxBuzz wrote:Lads....it's all about the "feminization" of our cultures. Fighting for anything even things that truly matter seem to be suspect these days. So the "fighting spirit" has been devalued. What many do not understand is that boxing was never about graphic exploitive violence. It was heart and soul about the human wish for the "championship spirit". A champion emboided "good" . (Whether he actually personaly did or not is another matter)

Movies like Braveheart and The Patriot are sort of a helpful reminders, but in the current sentiment of "what flavor,size, and frothiness will my cappucino be" fighting for anything does not seem to have much impetus.
I hope there will always be "critical mass" of that needed memory within our cultures to pull us out if we find ourselves on the ropes as societies.

I really don't think I'm on a rant when I say that "masculinity" in general is a bit under attack. We are shown to be bumbling neanderthals that are only in favor if we find our "feminine" side.....e.g. Brokeback mountain.

I liked it better in the days when what was in vouge was the girl in "Alien" hopping into a mechanical assist and putting a world of "masculine day saving testosterone-like hurt" on the evil space alien.

I'm always optimistic. I'm also a guy who is not overly in touch with his femine side, but my wife and daughter continue to have high hopes for me.
You are right. It seems that physical toughness,stoicism,discipline and traditional masculine behaviors are constantly being attacked.I dont know when this started, but it is maddening.

Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 03:14
by Expug
One thing from the old days also that all of us would have enjoyed was the small neighborhood fight clubs that put on frequent cards. My Father and Grandfather used to talk about Marigold Gardens here in Chicago. Its long gone.

Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 11:34
by BoxBuzz
Well expug, we can't have a bunch of young men hanging out together in some legitmate fashion.....something had to be done.

Posted: 29 Jan 2006, 19:05
by Expug
BoxBuzz wrote:Well expug, we can't have a bunch of young men hanging out together in some legitmate fashion.....something had to be done.
If it was a bunch of young men in line at Starbucks,it probably wouldnt be a problem. :wink: