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Who is our best Heavyweight World title hope?
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 10:08
by deadpan
Who would you have most faith in potentially acquiring a 'big 4' title belt?
Williams?
Audley?
Skelton?
Greenberg?
Haye?
Akinwande?
Or do we have to rely on the long shot of a Lennox comeback?
Re: Who is our best Heavyweight World title hope?
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 16:29
by KO Artist
deadpan wrote:Who would you have most faith in potentially acquiring a 'big 4' title belt?
Williams?
Audley?
Skelton?
Greenberg?
Haye?
Akinwande?
Or do we have to rely on the long shot of a Lennox comeback?
Greenberg or Haye
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 21:33
by stujones
Skelton.
For all his crudeness, he is the only one who I'd be confident can take the punches of the current champions (possibly not Brewster).
Note, I think Danny has a better shout of KO'ing Skelton than the WBA/WBC and IBF champions.
Danny - to vulnerable / too slow.
Harrison - to scared / too vulnerable. Byrd would outbox him, Valuev would outbox him, and Rahman and Brewster would KO him.
Haye - way to vulnerable, his best bet would be if Klitchsko picks up the title.
Greenberg - just not good enough at anything, too small, little power.
Akinwande - possibly, but does he have the power - cause his stamina is suspect.
Anyway, are the last two British?
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 21:38
by The Law
Akiwande used to be British but he got a lot of flack from the Brits so he changed his nationality back to Nigerian.
Greenberg was born in Israel but his nationality was generally regarded as British, but he may have changed it back to Israeli? ......

Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 21:56
by stujones
lawllb wrote:Akiwande used to be British but he got a lot of flack from the Brits so he changed his nationality back to Nigerian.
Greenberg was born in Israel but his nationality was generally regarded as British, but he may have changed it back to Israeli? ......

I haven't been told that Greenberg is elligable to fight for the British title (the reason why I don't rank him). I'm not sure that Wayne McCullough is either, but he is in because I just don't know enough about citenzship.
I always thought Greenberg was just fight out of Britain cause thats whom he currently fights for, its especially hard to work out his nationality - cause he fights fairly often abroad.
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 22:22
by Freiheit
My guess is Akinwande simply because it will be a lot easier for him to get a shot at a world title due to his promoter.
Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 04:58
by Loftgroov
A fat bloke down the end of my road looks quite hard. By compariosn with the above mentioned, I'd say he is a decent prospect.

Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 07:16
by WildWaylon
My faith in Matt Skelton is as good as ever, i I know not everyone shares my view but I really do believe he has the makings of a world champion - While everyone was talking about Harrison I was talking about Skelton - Harrison has proven at the top level he cant hold his own whereas Skelton I believe can and will - Skelton isnt classy but he is tough and once he gets going its like trying to stop an express train - OK he isnt a Lennox Lewis but I still say he is good enough for winning a world title and I know I will be proven right
Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 07:37
by KO Artist
stujones wrote:Skelton.
For all his crudeness, he is the only one who I'd be confident can take the punches of the current champions (possibly not Brewster).
Note, I think Danny has a better shout of KO'ing Skelton than the WBA/WBC and IBF champions.
Danny - to vulnerable / too slow.
Harrison - to scared / too vulnerable. Byrd would outbox him, Valuev would outbox him, and Rahman and Brewster would KO him.
Haye - way to vulnerable, his best bet would be if Klitchsko picks up the title.
Greenberg - just not good enough at anything, too small, little power.
Akinwande - possibly, but does he have the power - cause his stamina is suspect.
Anyway, are the last two British?
You could ask the same question about lennox
Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 07:48
by Max Molyneux
Lennox eas born here though unlike Greenberg and Akinwande.
Danny has a chance if he stops eating all the pies as it's messed up his footwork.
Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 09:42
by knockout
Max Molyneux wrote:Lennox eas born here though unlike Greenberg and Akinwande.
Danny has a chance if he stops eating all the pies as it's messed up his footwork.
Akinwande wants nothing to do with Britain anymore...
I think the BBBC refused his licence ... although i am not 100% sure
Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 09:44
by knockout
Greenburg cannot be considered british.. he came here at 19 to fight as a pro....
Having said that i think thats the same thing Bruce Scott did...
Greenburg was born i russia raised in israel and moved to UK aged approx 18
Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 09:49
by mattyp151
Williams - can contend, but I don't know if he's just good enough to beat any of the title holders, except for maybe Rahman.
Audley - needs to prove he can beat better competition and that he does have a heart down there somewhere that helped him win a gold.
Skelton - better stop fornicating around fighting for European belts if he wants to be a World Champ, and start making his mark with a big, World level win. He's 38 and not getting any younger.
Greenberg - needs to step up competition and give us a reason to believe he can win on the world level.
Haye - I think the best possibility if he shows he can take a punch as well as he gives them.
Akinwande - This guy is one of the biggest jokes in HW boxing. No chance.
Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 10:53
by Syntax Error
That is one sorry list.
Out of those, it's probably Matt Skelton.
David Haye may have a shout, so long as he learns that you can't KO everybody.
Harrison - no balls.
Greenberg - looks too lazy.
Akinwande - too old & grabs too much.
Williams - too fat & doesn't look like losing weight.
Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 11:03
by jeej
wildwaylon wrote:My faith in Matt Skelton is as good as ever, i I know not everyone shares my view but I really do believe he has the makings of a world champion - While everyone was talking about Harrison I was talking about Skelton - Harrison has proven at the top level he cant hold his own whereas Skelton I believe can and will - Skelton isnt classy but he is tough and once he gets going its like trying to stop an express train - OK he isnt a Lennox Lewis but I still say he is good enough for winning a world title and I know I will be proven right
You seem to use the term
everyone quite loosely!

Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 11:15
by pasty_spud
the only one with a chance (and a good one at that) isn't even a heavyweight yet...
so it's haye then

Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 11:17
by pasty_spud
Mattyp151 wrote:
Skelton - better stop fornicating around fighting for European belts if he wants to be a World Champ, and start making his mark with a big, World level win. He's 38 and not getting any younger
your right he's not getting any younger,christ he's not even 38...early 40's i heard

Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 12:54
by glahn
Skelton might beat Valuev or someone like that - assuming he can get past Williams.
Haye is the best long-term hope, although obviously there are still some question marks over his chin.
Greenberg, for me, doesn't count as a British fighter.
Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 13:23
by Priff
Naseem Hammed is probably a good outside bet.
Worth a fiver I would have thought.
Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 13:43
by Syntax Error
Priff wrote:Naseem Hammed is probably a good outside bet.
Worth a fiver I would have thought.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's certainly heavy enough!!!!!
