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Greatest Chins In Boxing?

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 01:34
by HomicideHenry
For my money its "The Bronx Bull" himself, Jake LaMotta, if we're going soley on championship status alone.

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 01:42
by Expug
Some other ones. Wayne MCcolough, Kid Gavilan, George Chuvalo, Oliver Mccall, Hagler.

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 02:18
by BoxBuzz
One of Ali's strong qualities. And for this particular ability McCall reminds me of a big Lamotta.

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 02:19
by Expug
For non champs we cant forget Marion Jackhammer Wilson, and Danny Blake.

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 02:57
by Jaclem
..considering that lamotta is usually given at the top or at least near the top on any list (mine included), i was surprised when some years ago ring magazine....and i can't recall when or if it was a consensus or one writer's ...even fleischer's opinion...that gave the best chin as belonging to barney ross. i hadn't seen this before or since. most unusual.

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 10:19
by Nile4000
George Chuvalo, Tex Cobb, Oliver McCall, Marlon Starling, Greg Page, Mitch Green, and definitely, Jake LaMotta and Marvin Hagler.

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 11:49
by Borinken25
Juan Laporte did have a great chin. He fought big punchers like, Gomez, Sanchez, Lockridge, McGuigan, Chavez and Tszyu and they couldn't stop him, I say that qualifies him as a top chin.

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 16:16
by Jorge
I guess you can say Wayne Mc Cullough had a good chin, but he didnt want any part of the punching power of hamed and fought as if he was trying not to get knocked out.

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 17:16
by KO Artist
David Tua

Mike McCallum

Marvin Hagler

Ricky Hatton

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 18:31
by Jorge
Same goes for Tua vs. Lennox. David fought the entire fight like he was scared to get hit. That was one of the cowardlies performances ive ever seen.

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 20:02
by DoubleM
Marvelous Marvin Hagler had the greatest chin of all time. Eugene Hart, John Mugabi and Thomas Hearns were legitimate middleweight knockout artists, yet they hit Hagler with their very best shots, on more than one occasion, and barely made him blink. Hagler faced the hardest hitting collection of middleweights of any champion, yet was never legitimately down, never close to being down, never staggered, either as an amateur or professional.

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 20:23
by silkov
How about Carlos Monzon, don't think he's been mentioned, also Roberto Duran... Sugar Ray Robinson and Tex Cobb come to mind...

Posted: 23 Feb 2006, 21:15
by DoubleM
silkov wrote:How about Carlos Monzon, don't think he's been mentioned, also Roberto Duran... Sugar Ray Robinson and Tex Cobb come to mind...
Monzon certainly had an excellent chin. Went unfloored for thirteen years until all time great puncher and arguably the hardest hitting middleweight of all time Rodrigo Valdez put him down for half a second with his best punch.

Robinson? No, I don't think he had a great chin that should be mentioned alongside some of the others. He was floored many, many times in his long and illustrious career. Of course, he was never stopped due to a particular punch or combination, but his durability was only one factor. Robinson had excellent survival and boxing skills, as well as heart and the ability to take a guy out at any moment. Those abilities deserve more credit than his chin, I think. But we must remember, Robinson didn't exactly face a big line up of huge hitters like Hagler and Ali did, for example.

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 03:13
by Jaclem
..doubleM....please favor us with a list of those many knockdowns the sugar man suffered in his career. thank you.

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 06:17
by dr_devious
Marvin Hagler had the best chin of any fighter I ever saw, as evinced in his performances against Tommy Hearns and John Mugabi.
Jake La Motta's was legendary for his ability to absorb punishment
Modern day fighters who had great chins include Ray Mercer, Oliver McCall, Larry Holmes, Evander Holyfield, Julio Cesar Chavez, Azumah Nelson, Chris Eubank, Mike McCallum, Gerald McClellan etc
Old time fighters who must have had great chins include Tom Sharkey, James J Jeffries, Tommy Farr, Harry Greb, Mickey Walker, Ace Hudkins, Kid Gavilan etc

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 07:15
by walshb
Eubank, Collins, Hagler, Chavez, Leonard, Robinson, Ali, Pryor, Foreman, Frazier, McCullough, Lamotta. Of all these mentioned I think Ali's was number one. You must remember although a heavyweight, he was taking shots off huge hitters. A heavyweights head and brain are still practically the same shape and weight as a middles or Welters for example, so they have to take bigger hits to the head than the lighter division

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 07:22
by silkov
DoubleM wrote:
silkov wrote:How about Carlos Monzon, don't think he's been mentioned, also Roberto Duran... Sugar Ray Robinson and Tex Cobb come to mind...
Monzon certainly had an excellent chin. Went unfloored for thirteen years until all time great puncher and arguably the hardest hitting middleweight of all time Rodrigo Valdez put him down for half a second with his best punch.

Robinson? No, I don't think he had a great chin that should be mentioned alongside some of the others. He was floored many, many times in his long and illustrious career. Of course, he was never stopped due to a particular punch or combination, but his durability was only one factor. Robinson had excellent survival and boxing skills, as well as heart and the ability to take a guy out at any moment. Those abilities deserve more credit than his chin, I think. But we must remember, Robinson didn't exactly face a big line up of huge hitters like Hagler and Ali did, for example.
When was Robinson floored?.... about the only time he was floored during his peak was a flash kncokdown by Graziano.... Lamotta, Turpin, Olsen, Fullmer and Basilo were all decent punchers... look at the punches a 40+ year old Robinson took from Fullmer in their fights without going down.... he had a great chin...

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 08:38
by walshb
Robinsons chin was legendary and this arguement that he was knocked down several times, so what. The measure of a guys chin is if he gets up, all fighters can get knocked down. But the granite chinned guys climb off the floor....

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 09:44
by BoxBuzz
yep, big difference between being knocked off your feet vs being knocked out of a fight. Tito is a good example, it just tended to make him more determined.

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 09:47
by Expug
Danny lil Red Lopez was that way , hed be on his duff one second and up and K.O.ing his opponent the next. He was exciting to watch fight.

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 10:15
by Grimm
You're confusing heart with chin.

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 11:09
by Expug
No, Lopez didnt have the greatest chin, he was just hard to keep down.

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 13:18
by Borinken25
Panama Al Brown

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 13:22
by Rory McCloskey
nice of everyone to leave out James J Braddock who haad over 80 proffesional fights and was only knocked out once. that was by none other then Joe Louis.

Posted: 24 Feb 2006, 13:46
by BoxBuzz
In my case I'm not confusing heart with chin. If your clear headed enough to come back and win a round after being knocked off balance your chin did just fine. Don't confuse chin with balance.

When I factor "chin" I'm talking about did the lights go dim? Did you enter that dreamy Place Ali talks about visiting? That place that Zab does a special dance? Knockdowns may or may not take you there. In Ali's case he was there more often on his feet. I don't think he admits to being dazed in any of his knockdowns. Certainly not Wepner Cooper? I think he was in that case though not sure he admits it, and Frazier? I think he claims not in that case.

But on his feet with Foreman he says he found himself in that spot. My guess is probably so with Shavers too.