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Posted: 16 Apr 2002, 01:13
by cybox
I've heard everything from him being in jail, to having HIV, to making a comeback, and I've had no proof to back any of this up. Does anybody know?

Posted: 16 Apr 2002, 02:13
by brett
Last I heard (earlier this year) he was living in Orlando working as a drug counselor. Prior, he was training troubled youth and had started some kind of training program for wannabe boxing executives. Also he was trainer/manager for welter Fontaine Cabell. Don't know anything about a comeback (doubt it) or the jail/HIV thing though.

Brett

Posted: 16 Apr 2002, 07:26
by overhand_right
no hes not in jail. ive actually spoken to pinkys publisicist. hes not got hiv either forget that.

hes working on a book, trains young fighters, counsels troubled youths, a very productive guy.

tried make a comeback in 1996 but was(thankfully) injured, and also nearly fought tim witherspoon in 1999 in the legends series, but that didnt come off because he couldnt get a deal to fight larry holmes in the unlikely event that he won. pinky should stay out the ring as he has absolutely nothng left and tim would murder him.

heres a link to a great article on pinklon thomas today cybox. if you want i can email you the post i got from his publisicst, its quite interesting.

http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/w7x-tk1.htm

Posted: 21 Apr 2002, 13:00
by overhand_right
doesnt anyone have an opinion on pinky? this forum is a waste of time no one checks it at all.

pinky was a hell of a fighter in his prime. just watched his fight with quick tillis the other day. he was really something. way to tough and skilled for most of todays so called contenders.

Posted: 21 Apr 2002, 17:18
by cybox
It's too bad that King had all the prime time heavys and didn't want to risk losses with fights
These would have been interesting fights

Thomas vs Page
Thomas vs Tubbs
Thomas vs Tucker
Thomas vs Bonecrusher

even Thomas vs Bruno would have been interesting

Posted: 22 Apr 2002, 22:11
by DAN C.
THOMAS VS COETZEE W-A-S very interesting. THOMAS was never in any danger from the South Africans vaunted "BIONIC RIGHT" although he did take some heavy shots while the fight went to a 10 rd draw. COETZEE hurt his hand and, strangely, went to a classic European stand up stance. COETZEE stood up well against THOMAS's power but I always thought that THOMAS did enough to win. THOMAS has to be one of the most underated heavyweights of the last 25 years. The problem was his up and down, hot and cold nature. Sometimes a killer would show up and then sometimes he was flat and detached. It was clear though that PINKLON THOMAS could go up against any heavyweight of his time. To bad he never got a shot at HOLMES. Dan Coli

Posted: 23 Apr 2002, 07:09
by wouter
I'd rate Thomas, Page and Tubbs quite high... They were hot and cold fighters and that makes many people think they were worse fighters than they really were. On their best nights I think they could've given anyone you care to name a good fight.Remember Tubbs was beating Seldon, Norris, Zolkin and Bowe (!) way in his thirties.

Posted: 23 Apr 2002, 08:03
by overhand_right
youre right, tony tubbs is a man with STAYING POWER. only him and tim witherspoon continued to beat excellent opposition after the 80s.

pinky did enough to beat gerrie coetzee in my opinion. no suprise gerrie couldnt knock pinky out, can you beleive his JAW?! this guy surely had the best chin of the 80s?

stood up to the big power shots of coetzee, wspoon and even weaver with no trouble, and took tysons shots for 6 rounds until he finally caved in under some 20 straight shots. unbelievable.

i think the tyson fight was the only fight pinky was down, even when he was completely shot with nothing left holyfield bowe and morrison couldnt knock him off his feet.

the guy had a granite chin.

Posted: 23 Apr 2002, 08:05
by overhand_right
oh yeh and people severely under rate greg page. yes he could have some horrible nights and look very ordinary but when he was up for a fight- fat or not- he could look like the best in the world. check out his fights with gerrie coetzee in south africa or his fight with scott ledoux in the bahamas- he looks so unbelievable. wow!

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JUN 8 2002: LENNOX LEWIS KO2 MIKE TYSON

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Posted: 23 Apr 2002, 10:34
by wouter
Chins of Tubbs, Page and Witherspoon weren't to bad either in their primes....

Posted: 23 Apr 2002, 11:18
by overhand_right
tim witherpoons chin is still pretty good NOW!! he lost inside the distance on back injuries a few years ago but heres nothing wrong with his jaw.

GREG PAGE

Posted: 05 May 2002, 20:46
by GUEST
[quote="overhand_right"]oh yeh and people severely under rate greg page. yes he could have some horrible nights and look very ordinary but when he was up for a fight- fat or not- he could look like the best in the world. check out his fights with gerrie coetzee in south africa or his fight with scott ledoux in the bahamas- he looks so unbelievable. wow!

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JUN 8 2002: LENNOX LEWIS KO2 MIKE TYSON

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: overhand_right on 2002-04-23 16:17 ]</font>[/quote] I remember watching GREG PAGE in a 10 on CBS against LARRY FRAZIER. FRAZIER had resumed boxing after spending a couple of years in prison. FRAZIER was 6'5", 235 pounds and he was HOT, and I mean H-O-T for PAGES ASS!! He was really going after him and PAGE knew it. You should have seen the look on PAGES face whenever FRAZIER came too close. I don't think that he could believe that FRAZIER was as strong as he was and was putting that much pressure on him. PAGE used his jab and footwork to keep away from FRAZIER and it impressed me greatly that a young kid like PAGE could put his ego on hold and fight the tactically sound, smart fight that he did. He didnt even come close to trading heavy leather with FRAZIER. I don't think he was even tempted. He just took his nice, neat, little 10 round decison and went home. Wise choice. There are 3 guys from the 1965 to 1990 era that I think had the capacity to have it all but somehow never rose to thier full potential even though 2 of them won the WBA HEAVYWEIGHT title. JOE BUGNER, GERRIE COETZEE and GREG PAGE. Why?, go figure!! Dan Coli
P.S. Anybody having username trouble with thier postings?

Posted: 07 May 2002, 08:03
by overhand_right
i'll have to get that fight, page v frazier. larry frazier was pretty tough in his day i think.

i remember here in england a young frank bruno ended fraziers career with a CRUSHING body shot in round 2. frazier hit the deck and was literally rolling around in pure agony. not unlike roy jones and virgil hill. its so painful to watch.

yes joe bugner was another heavy who could have gone further but for some reason sometimes he would not fight aggressively. check his ifght with ron lyle, which joe really should have won.

the interesting thing aout greg page- like james broad- he looked better when he was heavy. against trevor berbick he came in looking unbelievably CUT and trimmed, i think he was only 220, h elooked incredible but berbick pounded him. against gerrie coetzee he came in between 230-40 and looked chunky but also looked unbeatable! however v tim witherspoon he just looked flabby and not in shape at all. v david bey i think he was too light again but still deserved the decision.

Posted: 07 May 2002, 09:18
by wouter
It proves you've got to fight at the weight you're comfortable at, regardless of the scales. By the way everyone looks kinda down on fighters with too much fat on their bodies, while a too heavily muscled physique gives the fighters equal disadvantages. It's just a case of muscles looking better and giving the impression you're in your best shape.

Posted: 08 May 2002, 19:45
by 6 Pack
Thomas had a wicked Jab and some great boxing skills. It is a shame so many of these guys started using drugs and washed away there talents. It makes you think. BY the way lets no forget how tough these guys were and how Tyson KO'ed them with ease. Tyson takes alot of heat about how the fighters from the 80's were all bums any ways, but they were tougher than given credit for.

Posted: 24 Apr 2005, 13:06
by Syntax Error
Pinklon Thomas was just your typical late 80's heavyweight, with the exception of Tyson; he had very good natural ability, but somehow never utilised it to the full. :evil:

Posted: 25 Apr 2005, 18:40
by silkov
I think he ultilised his ability pretty good and got in some good wins but he burnt out quite quick and went downhill as a fighter fairly quickly after his loss to Trevor Berbick... who was probably the most underrated heavy of that era.

Posted: 26 Apr 2005, 11:46
by jamesmcdonnell
It's odd how many heavyweights from the 80's went off the rails, Dokes, Thomas, Tubbs, Page, all seemed to cave in to their demons, mind you, it was the decade where crack and coke really exploded in America.

Posted: 27 Apr 2005, 14:44
by silkov
jamesmcdonnell wrote:It's odd how many heavyweights from the 80's went off the rails, Dokes, Thomas, Tubbs, Page, all seemed to cave in to their demons, mind you, it was the decade where crack and coke really exploded in America.
From what I 've read a lot of it had to do with how these guys were treated by King, they'd win the title and still find themselves sharing equipment with their sparring partners and being ripped off in their purses... thats why most of them seemed not to care if they kept the title... because they didn't at the end of the day after the way they'd been treated. Damn shame really, those were all talented fighters.
Thomas made the mistake of trying to promote and manage himself as well as launching a singing career and probably underestimated Berbick... something a lot of fighters did.

Posted: 27 Apr 2005, 16:01
by bollox
The 'wasted 80's HW talent' thing coincided with the explosion in HW purses, which Ali was in part responsible for. Cocaine was the 80's drug of choice for people with money and so many talented fighters were sucked into it. Real shame

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 12:09
by Nile4000
overhand_right wrote:oh yeh and people severely under rate greg page. yes he could have some horrible nights and look very ordinary but when he was up for a fight- fat or not- he could look like the best in the world. check out his fights with gerrie coetzee in south africa or his fight with scott ledoux in the bahamas- he looks so unbelievable. wow!

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JUN 8 2002: LENNOX LEWIS KO2 MIKE TYSON

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Best fight Greg ever fought was Marty Monroe.Now if he only put his weight behind the punches, he would've knocked out Monroe a couple of rounds earlier.

Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 12:22
by The Great John L
Nile4000 wrote: Best fight Greg ever fought was Marty Monroe.Now if he only put his weight behind the punches, he would've knocked out Monroe a couple of rounds earlier.
Agreed. Monroe looked very good in his previous fight v Eddie "The Animal" Lopez, and many expected him to give Page trouble. But it was NO CONTEST.