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1)Audly Harrison(conman)
2)Richard Dunn(Bag of bones)
3)Frank Bruno(right Shithouse)
4)Neville Mead(apparently the welsh ernie shavers )
5)Joe Erskine(could`nt punch his way out a paper bag,but as angelo dundee said,technically superb)

tigerpomfret wrote:1)Audly Harrison(conman)
2)Richard Dunn(Bag of bones)
3)Frank Bruno(right Shithouse)
4)Neville Mead(apparently the welsh ernie shavers )
5)Joe Erskine(could`nt punch his way out a paper bag,but as angelo dundee said,technically superb)

I think you're a bit harsh on Bruno, the man had a huge heart, well up until his last fight with Tyson, when he punked out like scared cat!!!!! :P

Harrison is definitely number 1; that man should hang his head in shame & never disgrace the sport of boxing again.

tigerpomfret wrote:1)Audly Harrison(conman)
2)Richard Dunn(Bag of bones)
3)Frank Bruno(right Shithouse)
4)Neville Mead(apparently the welsh ernie shavers )
5)Joe Erskine(could`nt punch his way out a paper bag,but as angelo dundee said,technically superb)

Your numbers 2, 3, 4 & 5 are fighters. Never disrespect a fighter

No1 - Its debatable what he is.

My dad saw Don Cockell fight a few times, and said that he was especially poor. John L Gardner was someone I remember from my time, who was shown up badly when he moved up in class and fought Mike Dokes.
Bruno was a pretty good boxer with a very good punch (and a glass jaw), who put up good fights against Witherspoon and Lewis (and Tyson in the first fight), I'd rate him as one of the better british heavies.

KO Artist wrote:

tigerpomfret wrote:1)Audly Harrison(conman)
2)Richard Dunn(Bag of bones)
3)Frank Bruno(right Shithouse)
4)Neville Mead(apparently the welsh ernie shavers )
5)Joe Erskine(could`nt punch his way out a paper bag,but as angelo dundee said,technically superb)

Your numbers 2, 3, 4 & 5 are fighters. Never disrespect a fighter

No1 - Its debatable what he is.

He's a track star posing as a boxer....extremely evident by the way he ran from Williams.

Here I thought he was a comedian

revporl wrote:Bruno was a pretty good boxer with a very good punch (and a glass jaw), who put up good fights against Witherspoon and Lewis (and Tyson in the first fight), I'd rate him as one of the better british heavies.

I have to strongly disagree with the glass jaw comment. Brunos jaw of course will never be mistaked for Oliver McCalls, but if Bruno did have a glass jaw why wasn't he knocked out COLDa number of times?

Bruno fought some big world class punchers like Bonecrusher Smith where he was ahead on points before taking many big shots before getting stopped. Same with Tim Witherspoon (or at least the scores were very close).

In the first Tyson fight he was briefly dropped but got up and was later stopped on HIS FEET. Surely if Bruno had a glass jaw a peak Tyson would have KO'd him outright, and early.

He gave Lennox Lewis a real good argument untill getting stopped on his feet. Lennox was a very good puncher but he couldn't put Bruno flat out on the canvas.

If Bruno had a glass jaw bug punchers like Tyson, Witherspoon, Smith and Lewis who would have all knocked him clean out.

Bruno's weaknesses were more to do with stamina and a lack of survival instinct when hurt.

What I meant was that if Bruno took one hard, clean shot to the chin, the fight was over, although you're right, he was usually stopped on his feet.

by the way, what's a "bug puncher"???

revporl wrote:What I meant was that if Bruno took one hard, clean shot to the chin, the fight was over, although you're right, he was usually stopped on his feet.

Of the 5 times Bruno lost, he was KOed in all 5. However, 4 of the 5 were TKO's.

I agree Joe, I think Bruno's problem was that he didn't know what to do when he was cault clean and simply froze up rather than getting on his bike or covering up, allowing his opponent to land further punches

tigerpomfret wrote:1)Audly Harrison(conman)
2)Richard Dunn(Bag of bones)
3)Frank Bruno(right Shithouse)
4)Neville Mead(apparently the welsh ernie shavers )
5)Joe Erskine(could`nt punch his way out a paper bag,but as angelo dundee said,technically superb)

You don't have a clue what you're on about mate, go away and learn something about boxing before coming up with insulting tripe like this!... arse... 8)

Stupid comment on Bruno, I agree with KOJoe that his problems were more to do with stamina and survival instinct than a glass jaw. Bruno was Britains second best ever heavyweight behind Lewis.
I think peope are over-critical of Harrison too. Hes far from Britains worst heavyweight, just a wasted talent. He seemed a bit gun-shy to me against Danny Williams, but I would be too fighting Williams, as would all the other armchair warriors putting posts up about fighters hearts!

Bruno was nothing but a conman,fought bums and got away with it untill the title fights,then got knocked out by crap like laughable tripe like bonecrusher smith,i remember henry cooper saying what a crock of sh**british heavy boxing was in,with names like bruno,andfunso banyo about,the crap frank fought to get world title shots was unbelivable,fat porkers and even a male model how was sopposed to be danish champ,until a couple of days after the fight when he admited it was 1 big joked,but i feel sorry for franks ex misses,he certainly was no gentleman when you seen the reportsand i was told bruno was out on his feet but won on cuts late evening

dr_devious wrote:Stupid comment on Bruno, I agree with KOJoe that his problems were more to do with stamina and survival instinct than a glass jaw. Bruno was Britains second best ever heavyweight behind Lewis.
I think peope are over-critical of Harrison too. Hes far from Britains worst heavyweight, just a wasted talent. He seemed a bit gun-shy to me against Danny Williams, but I would be too fighting Williams, as would all the other armchair warriors putting posts up about fighters hearts!

Bugner and Farr were better than Bruno. Arguably Cooper as well.


Bruno had an ok chin-not horrible but def. not very good. His huge problem was a complete lack of recuperative abilities. Once he was hurt badly, that was it. Good jab and ok boxer but pretty robotic and slow.

tigerpomfret wrote:Bruno was nothing but a conman,fought bums and got away with it untill the title fights,then got knocked out by crap like laughable tripe like bonecrusher smith,i remember henry cooper saying what a crock of sh**british heavy boxing was in,with names like bruno,andfunso banyo about,the crap frank fought to get world title shots was unbelivable,fat porkers and even a male model how was sopposed to be danish champ,until a couple of days after the fight when he admited it was 1 big joked,but i feel sorry for franks ex misses,he certainly was no gentleman when you seen the reportsand i was told bruno was out on his feet but won on cuts late evening

Smith was a good fighter who gave the likes of Tyson and Holmes decent fights while also beating Mike Weaver and Tim Witherspoon... your knowledge of boxing is laughable tigerprat

tigerpomfret wrote:Bruno was nothing but a conman,fought bums and got away with it untill the title fights,then got knocked out by crap like laughable tripe like bonecrusher smith,i remember henry cooper saying what a crock of sh**british heavy boxing was in,with names like bruno,andfunso banyo about,the crap frank fought to get world title shots was unbelivable,fat porkers and even a male model how was sopposed to be danish champ,until a couple of days after the fight when he admited it was 1 big joked,but i feel sorry for franks ex misses,he certainly was no gentleman when you seen the reportsand i was told bruno was out on his feet but won on cuts late evening

Bruno and Smith was not a title fight. Just thought I would point this out since you had both their names and title fight in the same sentence. Hmmm, upon further review your whole paragraph is one sentence.

I still rank Bruno as second best British heavyweight. A peak Bugner would have been in with a chance against Frank but I'd still back Frank to beat Bugner, not sure about Tommy Farr would think hed be too small, and Frank would crush Henry Cooper. At the end of the day Frank was a decent boxer with a huge punch, an average chin and poor stamina, which really let him down. He did at least win a bona fide WBC title, which is no mean feat.

dr_devious wrote:I still rank Bruno as second best British heavyweight. A peak Bugner would have been in with a chance against Frank but I'd still back Frank to beat Bugner, not sure about Tommy Farr would think hed be too small, and Frank would crush Henry Cooper. At the end of the day Frank was a decent boxer with a huge punch, an average chin and poor stamina, which really let him down. He did at least win a bona fide WBC title, which is no mean feat.

I think Bugner would stop Frank in a 15 round fight in the late rounds. Bruno was an honest fighter though and always gave his best. The reaction to that punch from Jumbo Cummings was almost cartoon-like. I'd never seen anything like it.

Ezzard what fight was it that Bruno was winning and in the last round right before the bell got clocked and stood there as if he was hypnotised. The corner literally had to carry him back. He won. It may have not been the last round but I think it was because I can't imagine Bruno recovering enough to win.

Arsenal wrote:Ezzard what fight was it that Bruno was winning and in the last round right before the bell got clocked and stood there as if he was hypnotised. The corner literally had to carry him back. He won. It may have not been the last round but I think it was because I can't imagine Bruno recovering enough to win.

Arsenal

That's the fight I'm talking about. Cummings clocks him and Bruno's arms are at his sides, he's all limp and his eyes are going round in separate orbits...

I liked Frank, he always put up a fight (except the 2nd Tyson one). There were a lot o0f fat boys about but at least he looked like he took his profession seriously.

So he actually recovered to stop Cummings on a TKO in the 7th?

If Bruno had a bad chin he would have been koed by Cummings who was a huge puncher.... even Smith only put Frank down after hitting flush about 15 to 20 odd times in that last round... Bruno actually had a good chin, better than Lennox Lewis' I think, his problem was confidence and stamina... the fact that he did what he did in his career speaks volumes for the mans courage and determination and anyone who can knock that is nothing short of a turd....

I agree about Buno's chin. It was his ability to survive that cost him. Instead of going down he would jsut drop his hands and get pummelled. Lots of people said he was to proud to go down. As soon as he got hit with a big shot it seemed his energy went but he must have had great strength because he was never floored as such. His stamina was bad probably due to the amount of weight training he did but that probably also contributed to his ability to stay upright after being clocked.

Its funny when most people get hurt they cover up, big Frank was the opposite. At least his defeats were to 2 top 15 HW of all time (Lewis, Tyson) and IMO two very good HW in Witherspoon and Smith.

Arsenal wrote:I agree about Buno's chin. It was his ability to survive that cost him. Instead of going down he would jsut drop his hands and get pummelled. Lots of people said he was to proud to go down. As soon as he got hit with a big shot it seemed his energy went but he must have had great strength because he was never floored as such. His stamina was bad probably due to the amount of weight training he did but that probably also contributed to his ability to stay upright after being clocked.

Its funny when most people get hurt they cover up, big Frank was the opposite. At least his defeats were to 2 top 15 HW of all time (Lewis, Tyson) and IMO two very good HW in Witherspoon and Smith.

He didn't have any of those basic survival tactics. When he was hurt it was obvious and he couldn't hold or smother the other guy. He was worse than Hearns for that. I was amazed at how well he did against Lewis. I think Lewis was amazed too.