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Dedicated to the great but unfortunate Gerald McClellan

Posted: 28 Mar 2006, 19:05
by Grimm

Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 11:18
by Grimm
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Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 16:21
by silkov
Interesting site, I hope Gerald can find some peace and comfort in his life, one of the saddest stories in boxing unfortunately...

Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 17:14
by surf-bat
The "great" Gerald McClellan? Not sure if I agree with greatness being bestowed upon him, but it is still a sad story.

Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 19:55
by Grimm
You aren't even sure that he did those things to dogs.

Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 20:18
by Grimm
Decagon wrote:He was heavily involved in dogfighting.
So am I.

That is different from tying a dog up and letting another dog go to work on it.

Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 20:40
by RazorKO
samuel wrote:Great, another tribute to Gerald the animal abuser. Adopt a dog, tape it's mouth shut, then see how long it takes your pitbill to kill it. Yeah, he really deserves a tribute.
He deserves tribute because he was great fighter. McClelan was braindamaged for entertaning us in a sport we all love, Mcclelan has also paid what he has owed regarding dog fighting so stop with this shit.

Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 21:49
by meade95
I would have loved to see McClellan Vs J. Jackson when Jackson was closer to his prime.......He definitely fought Jackson when Jackson was clearly on the way down -

Two huge punchers...

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Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 06:22
by barry
>>>Gerald's main attribute was being bigger than his opponents.<<<

No, his main attribute was his ability to cripple opponents with one punch! It wasn't until his last two, or three years of fighting that he would come in after the weigh in at around 170 to 180, and that only happened three, or four times at the most!

Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 11:33
by BoxBuzz
Who hit harder with a single punch....Gerald Or Nigel?

Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 11:38
by Grimm
BoxBuzz wrote:Who hit harder with a single punch....Gerald Or Nigel?
I say Gerald but he also fought some of the hardest hitters.

Mugabi,Benn and Jackson could stop a fighter in their tracks at any time in the fight.

Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 11:41
by silkov
BoxBuzz wrote:Who hit harder with a single punch....Gerald Or Nigel?
I'd say Gerlad was the bigger single puncher but Nigel threw more combinations and had the better boxing skills. I think Julian Jackson was a bigger single puncher than Gerald but didn't have such a good chin.
As for those who are still going on about the dog fights, tell me this, did the dog fights stop you watching Gerald fight in the ring?.... I think not, if you feel so strongly adopt a dog or a cat but stop whining about people who feel some sympathy for a brave man who suffered brain damage for others entertainment....

Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 11:47
by Grimm
silkov wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:Who hit harder with a single punch....Gerald Or Nigel?
I'd say Gerlad was the bigger single puncher but Nigel threw more combinations and had the better boxing skills. I think Julian Jackson was a bigger single puncher than Gerald but didn't have such a good chin.
As for those who are still going on about the dog fights, tell me this, did the dog fights stop you watching Gerald fight in the ring?.... I think not, if you feel so strongly adopt a dog or a cat but stop whining about people who feel some sympathy for a brave man who suffered brain damage for others entertainment....
I think Gerald's condition is worse than being dead and a humans life is worth much more than a dog's to me anyway.

Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 12:30
by KOJOE90
One punch power at Middleweight I would rate them

(1) Julian Jackson.
(2) Gerald McClellan.
(3) Nigel Benn.

Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 12:37
by Grimm
KOJOE90 wrote:One punch power at Middleweight I would rate them

(1) Julian Jackson.
(2) Gerald McClellan.
(3) Nigel Benn.
Is that your all time list?

Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 12:39
by KOJOE90
Grimm wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:One punch power at Middleweight I would rate them

(1) Julian Jackson.
(2) Gerald McClellan.
(3) Nigel Benn.
Is that your all time list?
No, just the fighters mentioned earlier in this thread, still thinking where to put John Mugabi, maybe between G-Man and Benn?

Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 13:38
by meade95
Yeah I think both J. Jackson and McClellan hit harder then N. Benn without a doubt -

But both McClellan and Benn were a bit more aggressive (number of punches thrown and cutting off the ring) then was J. Jackson.

I think shot for shot J. Jackson was a bigger hitter then McClellan even...but McClellan had the better chin.

J. Jackson was also at his best at JMW.....but still was a KO artist at MW.

Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 13:41
by KOJOE90
meade95 wrote:J. Jackson was also at his best at JMW.....but still was a KO artist at MW.
Same to a certain extent with John Mugabi.

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Posted: 01 Apr 2006, 15:05
by barry
McClellan was the bigger one punch hitter, but Benn could certainly bomb as well. There are some less than quality opponents on McClellan's record, but he still knocked out quality fighters in the same manner that he did others when he moved up in competition...20+ first round knockouts in 34 fights...very impressive.

Posted: 06 Apr 2006, 06:40
by silkov
samuel wrote:
RazorKO wrote:
samuel wrote:Great, another tribute to Gerald the animal abuser. Adopt a dog, tape it's mouth shut, then see how long it takes your pitbill to kill it. Yeah, he really deserves a tribute.
He deserves tribute because he was great fighter. McClelan was braindamaged for entertaning us in a sport we all love, Mcclelan has also paid what he has owed regarding dog fighting so stop with this shit.
Yeah, a guy who tapes dogs mouths shut and then watches them get ripped to pieces really deserves our respect :roll:
Havn't you got anything better to do?... for someone who is condemning another for cruelty you are doing a good job of being a heartless twat yourself!... well done big man!...

Posted: 06 Apr 2006, 14:45
by garye
Benn hit harder than McClelan or Jackson, no question about that.

If you disagree, you haven't seen Benn's first 22 fights or the footage of him in West Germany in 1982.

Posted: 06 Apr 2006, 15:12
by KOJOE90
Decagon wrote:Well, there's a difference. Most of Benn's knockouts came over lesser competition, while Jackson and McClellan each took out a number of top fighters with one punch. When Benn stepped up, the knockouts stopped coming.
Decagon

I basically agree wth you, but I also feel a major factore in Benns reductions in KO's was also due to moving up to 168lbs. Benn was never a big Middleweight so when he moved up a division was often facing naturally bigger guys.

In the first few years of his career Benn often stated that if the money was right he could make Light-Middleweight.

Posted: 06 Apr 2006, 15:35
by silkov
Decagon wrote:How has Gerald "paid what he owed" by engaging in dogfighting? What happened to him was terrible, and even though I'm a dog lover myself, I wouldn't disabuse anyone of sending money to his sister, but if he hadn't been injured, he'd probably still be torturing dogs to this day.
There is no evidence that Gerald did half the things that he has been accused of... I find any cruelty to animals abhorrent and have worked with organizations that help abused animals but I find it just as abhorrent people saying that Gerald has got what he deserved and even that he deserves no help now and that his family that is caring for him deserves no help... pure hypocristy!... caring for animals is great but the world would be even better if we cared more for other people as well...

Posted: 06 Apr 2006, 16:42
by silkov
Decagon wrote:KOJoe,

Jackson moved up in weight just as much, and he was still able to knock people out. How many top middleweights did Benn put on their asses?

Silkov,

He spent most of his adult life involved in dogfighting. Did he buy a dog from a pet store, tape its mouth shut and sic his pitbull on it? I have no idea, but I do know what the world of dogfighting is like, and it's repulsive to me.
Did Geralds Dog fighting stop you watching his fights when he boxed?...

Posted: 06 Apr 2006, 16:58
by BoxBuzz
at any rate no matter what happened regarding the cruelty, those days are behind him now.