Never before and never after did light-heavyweights find it so easy to move up and create havoc in the heavyweight division.
wut about jack johnsons era?? he had middleweights beating heavyweights. can u imagine jake la motta beating walcott or marciano?
what light-H?
moore weighed 185-190lb
charles weighed 180-190lb
walcott weighed 195lb
marciano weighed 185lb
lets check out some of the other top contenders
6'3 210lb nino valdes
6'2 215lb Joe Louis
215lb Heinz Neuhas
6'2 220lb bob baker
6'3 200lb earl walls
6'1 185lb clarence henry
6'0 190lb roland lastarza
6'1 200lb rex layne
6'4 195lb hurricane jackson
5'10 175lb harold johnson
once again, what light-H? the only one is 175lb harold johnson and even a far past his prime johnson beat eddie machen in 1961.
it seems to me u are forgetting most of these guys weighed well over the 175lb when they fought at heavyweight
bottom line: never before and never after were there light-H like charles and moore
if u take the average size of the early top 1950s heavyweight contenders, they are just as big as some of the other eras
Marciano's best opponents were small or old or - most of the time - both.
old? jersey joe walcott and archie moore may have been old, but they were late bloomers who got better with age, and they were kicking the shit out of the young guys in the division.
- walcott was 6'0 195lb, thats bigger than gene tunney
- archie moore was 189lb, he weighed in MORE THAN MARCIANO. also marciano was 32 when he fought moore making moore only 6 years old than marciano when they fought. in comparison, liston was 10 years older than muhammad ali when they fought.
- ezzard charles was only 32 years old
- joe louis was 6'2 215lb. thats big. louis may have been old and far past his prime, but louis was still a very formidable fighter when he fought rocky and he was the # 1 contender who had racked up 8 victories in a row.
- rex layne was 6'1 195lb and was 22 years old
- roland lastrarza 6'0 190lb master boxer and was 23 years old
why do u critisize size when u have langford and tunney in ur top 10 even though both were small?
weren't 44-47 year old larry holmes and 45 year old foreman top contenders in a supposedly "tough" 1990s heavyweight era?
didnt 5'6 175lb sam langford dominate jack johnson era??
wut about gene tunney? tunney was 6'1 190lb.
yet u rate them both in ur top 10?? ur being hypocritical here belitting charles because of his size but not langford and tunney
Bottom line: dominanting heayvweight boxing in the early 1950s means less than dominating it in the, say, 1930s, or in the 1960s or 1970s.
1930s? so ur saying sharkey, schmeling, baer were better than patterson, charles, and walcott?
Like it or not, Walcott and Charles were beyond their peaks when he fought them. Walcott was simply old;
thats a very ignorant statement. nat fleischer said walcott was a better fighter in his mid-late 30s and so did joe louis. now shouldnt we take joe louis word since he sparred with walcott all the way back to when walcott was in his 20s?
late bloomer walcott was coming off 2 victories over ezzard charles entering the marciano fight? how in gods name was walcott over the hill if he could beat ezzard charles?
are u implying walcott fought like a old man in the first marciano fight?
please tell me the difference between a 28 year old walcott and a 38 year old walcott?
ill give u the answer: the 28 year old walcott was a part time retired journeyman who was nowhere near contender status, while the 38 year old walcott was heavyweight champion and beating the likes of ezzard charles
walcott was old? well so was lennox lewis when he knocked out hasim rahman and decisioned david tua but many people say this was lennox lewis prime
And yet both these have-beens outboxed Marciano soundly before they ran out of gas
charles did not run out of gas. once again i question if u seen the fight? marciano simply wore charles down. marciano won the fight clearly on points.
in the rematch charles DID NOT WIN ONE ROUND
walcott ran out of gas? HAHHAHAHA u havnt seen the fight. walcotts best work was the 11 and 12 rounds, and it was walcott who looked the stronger of the two. most ringsiders couldnt believe how a 38 year old man was actually GETTING STRONGER in the late rounds.marciano simply caught walcott with the perfect punch. if u think walcott got hit with that punch due to being tired, then u havnt seen the fight
walcott a has been? then tell me why walcott was coming off two wins over ezzard charles?
