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Ok....Who wins and how is it accomplished?

With a perfect record and Weighing in at 188 pounds and standing 5'11...some say 5'10
Rocky Marciano
Trainers: C. Goldman, A. Columbo

www.http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=9032

Also with a perfect record, weighing in at 324 pounds and standing 7'0....some say 6'11
Nicolay Valuev
Trainer: Manuel Gabrielian

www.http://boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=19904

I'd take Valuev over that miserable drunk, John L. Sullivan

sullivan would knock valuev into the 5th row

Sullivan would spark out the mediocre Valuev within 5 rounds...

AND Marciano would do "the gentle gaint" sooner...

How does Marciano get to Valuev's chin?

pundit wrote:How does Marciano get to Valuev's chin?

how does valuev get to marcianos chin?

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:

pundit wrote:How does Marciano get to Valuev's chin?

how does valuev get to marcianos chin?

I think after Rocky pounds on his elbows and body for a few rounds, the big man either goes down from the body work, or begins to bend forward, which is a natural reaction to getting hit in the body. Either way, it’s Rocky inside of 6.

heres my take on valuev -marciano..........


marciano in his fights shows he can hit you anywhere. he broke lastarzas arms. marciano will completley use valuev's arms and body as a target and will wail away on them like a punching bag. marciano will not be getting hit by valuev that much, because marciano will get in that low crouch defense making it near impossible for valuev to hit him. its easier to punch up than down, and in valuevs case rocky will make him bend down and punch at angles hes never had to before, and it will make valuev way offf balance and open for a huge counterpunch. the punch valuev will need to use, the uppercut, is a sissy uppercut which will pose now threat to marciano. marciano rolled, weaved, slipped, ducked in his crouch and valuev will have an awful hard time hitting the rock. marciano on the other hand could punch from the crouch, and he had a killer leaping left hook which will land on valuev who will be bending over trying to hit marciano. marciano will viciously attack valuev's body the whole fight and occasionally landing the head shots when valuev bends down low and misses leaving his head out there. marciano was able to parry a balazing fast jersey joe walcotts jab, marciano will have no trouble avoiding a deathly slow valuev jab. master boxer sharp shootists like moore, charles, walcott had trouble hitting the rock with a clean punch. i doubt valuev will who never had to punch down before, or bend down and throw punches at wierd angles that i dont think hes coordinated enough to do. marciano on the other hand was always used to throwing punches at bizarre interior angles. marciano's volume of punches, power will completley take its toll on valuev and i expect a marciano leaping left hook to possibly drop valuev. beat the body and the head goes down with it. rocky punches with increible leverage that i never seen before. he got his whole body weight into punches. on the other hand valuev had no leverage and throws girly arm punches that have nowhere near the power to snap of rockys punches. valuev wont even be able to keep up his arms after marciano hammers them for 10 rounds.


marciano late round stoppage




valuev's by far bigger than any man marciano fought but marciano showed he was able to knock out a 6'4 254lb man with 1 right hand and he had no problems whats so ever with 6'5 220lb johnny skhor a rough and tough journeyman who was by no means a bum. right befor facing rocky, skhor had beaten contender rusty payne. shkor was beaten so badly in 6 rounds that he never fought again.


rocky's overcome reach deficiencies his whole career. valuev has an 85" reach, not so long for a 7' man. rocky faced guys with very long reach before. carmine vingo's reach was over 80".

The Great John L wrote:

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:

pundit wrote:How does Marciano get to Valuev's chin?

how does valuev get to marcianos chin?

I think after Rocky pounds on his elbows and body for a few rounds, the big man either goes down from the body work, or begins to bend forward, which is a natural reaction to getting hit in the body. Either way, it’s Rocky inside of 6.

Agreed.