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Top 15 Bantamweights of all time
Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 22:38
by AndreWardFan2006
This includes both Bantamweight and Super-Bantamweight classes and only these two.
I have 14 but I cant think of another great.
(In no particular order)
1. Panama Al Brown
2. Carlos Zarate
3. Lionel Rose
4. Manuel Ortiz
5. Alfonso Zamora
6. Oscar Larios
7. Eder Jofre
8. Ruben Olivares
9. Jeff Chandler
10. Orlando Canizales
11. Fighting Harada
12. Lupe Pintor
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rafael Marquez
15. ?
your thoughts?
Re: Top 15 Bantamweights of all time
Posted: 17 Apr 2006, 02:25
by surf-bat
AndreWardFan2006 wrote:This includes both Bantamweight and Super-Bantamweight classes and only these two.
I have 14 but I cant think of another great.
(In no particular order)
1. Panama Al Brown
2. Carlos Zarate
3. Lionel Rose
4. Manuel Ortiz
5. Alfonso Zamora
6. Oscar Larios
7. Eder Jofre
8. Ruben Olivares
9. Jeff Chandler
10. Orlando Canizales
11. Fighting Harada
12. Lupe Pintor
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rafael Marquez
15. ?
your thoughts?
That George Dixon guy is missing. So is Terry McGovern
Posted: 17 Apr 2006, 03:31
by Syntax Error
Eder Jofre is king, followed by Terry McGovern.
Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 00:09
by Les Darcy
jofre has to be number 1, rose is way too high (especially when you leave out carruthers and fenech, both of who would of taken rose to school), ........actually, it really is all over the place, larios and rose in your top 6 is comical
my top 10 would be (bantam/junior feather combined):
1- Jofre
2- McGovern
3- Gomez
4- Ortiz
5- Panama Al
6- Harada
7- Zarate
8- Olivares
9- Canizales
10- Fenech
Posted: 20 Apr 2006, 11:12
by Crease
Prince Naseem should be worth a mention, boys.
Posted: 21 Apr 2006, 03:12
by Les Darcy
he was a featherweight, not a bantamweight or super bantamweight
Posted: 21 Apr 2006, 07:29
by Migz
Les Darcy wrote:he was a featherweight, not a bantamweight or super bantamweight
u just said Hamed was not at bantamweight or a superbantamweight...umm correct me if im wrong but didnt he win a european bantamweight title and the WBC inter superbantamweight title
Posted: 21 Apr 2006, 07:58
by Les Darcy
woop d. doo he won his world title at featherweight, hence thats where i'll rank him
Posted: 21 Apr 2006, 08:47
by Migz
Les Darcy wrote:woop d. doo he won his world title at featherweight, hence thats where i'll rank him
yeh but the quote you made Mr Les Darcy was that Hamed was a featherweight not a bantamweight or a superbantamweight and all im doing is just stateing that he was a bantamweight and a superbantam and won two titles in those divisions they may not of been major but there still titles to show he fought in those weights
Posted: 21 Apr 2006, 11:34
by Les Darcy
my quote was a response to someone saying that naz should be included in a top 15 bantamweight list of all-time, so unless your point is that his wbc regional belt and his european crown at those weights entitles him to a spot among the bantamweight greats, then you're just arguing petty semantics
Posted: 21 Apr 2006, 18:39
by Migz
Les Darcy wrote:my quote was a response to someone saying that naz should be included in a top 15 bantamweight list of all-time, so unless your point is that his wbc regional belt and his european crown at those weights entitles him to a spot among the bantamweight greats, then you're just arguing petty semantics
i just replied to your quote the way i saw it sorri if i misunderstood it Les
Posted: 24 Apr 2006, 07:19
by Migz
wat about daniel zaragoza!
Posted: 24 Apr 2006, 19:02
by bollox
Migz wrote:wat about daniel zaragoza!
Head like a robber's dog but durable as hell. He was bantam titleholder a full 10 years after Fenech pummeled him around the ring for 10 rounds
Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 10:42
by AndreWardFan2006
Les Darcy wrote:actually, it really is all over the place, larios and rose in your top 6 is comical
It was in
no particular order. I would not include Terry McGovern or George Dixon in my top 15 because they fought in the 1900's. And not to mention they fought at featherweight, so they aren't known for their bantamweight success. The 14 guys I have on my list all had great careers as bantamweights and peaked at that weight.
Posted: 27 Apr 2006, 01:03
by surf-bat
AndreWardFan2006 wrote:Les Darcy wrote:actually, it really is all over the place, larios and rose in your top 6 is comical
It was in
no particular order. I would not include Terry McGovern or George Dixon in my top 15 because they fought in the 1900's. And not to mention they fought at featherweight, so they aren't known for their bantamweight success. The 14 guys I have on my list all had great careers as bantamweights and peaked at that weight.
I think you'd better check yer facts there. Both men, especially Dixon, had quite a bit of success at the weight.
Re: Top 15 Bantamweights of all time
Posted: 27 Apr 2006, 07:51
by silkov
AndreWardFan2006 wrote:This includes both Bantamweight and Super-Bantamweight classes and only these two.
I have 14 but I cant think of another great.
(In no particular order)
1. Panama Al Brown
2. Carlos Zarate
3. Lionel Rose
4. Manuel Ortiz
5. Alfonso Zamora
6. Oscar Larios
7. Eder Jofre
8. Ruben Olivares
9. Jeff Chandler
10. Orlando Canizales
11. Fighting Harada
12. Lupe Pintor
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rafael Marquez
15. ?
your thoughts?
Larios at 6!!!???.... and how can you have Olivares so low?... he destroyed Rose and would have done the same thing to Larios.... Gomez destroyed Zarate yet is below him?!!
Posted: 27 Apr 2006, 08:16
by Arbachakov
LMAO
About four posts up the guy clarifies it's in no particular order.As if the original post doesn't make that clear enough.
Posted: 27 Apr 2006, 08:25
by silkov
Larios should be nowhere near the top 20 to be blunt...
Re: Top 15 Bantamweights of all time
Posted: 27 Apr 2006, 10:14
by AndreWardFan2006
silkov wrote:AndreWardFan2006 wrote:This includes both Bantamweight and Super-Bantamweight classes and only these two.
I have 14 but I cant think of another great.
(In no particular order)
1. Panama Al Brown
2. Carlos Zarate
3. Lionel Rose
4. Manuel Ortiz
5. Alfonso Zamora
6. Oscar Larios
7. Eder Jofre
8. Ruben Olivares
9. Jeff Chandler
10. Orlando Canizales
11. Fighting Harada
12. Lupe Pintor
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rafael Marquez
15. ?
your thoughts?
Larios at 6!!!???.... and how can you have Olivares so low?... he destroyed Rose and would have done the same thing to Larios.... Gomez destroyed Zarate yet is below him?!!
I guess I said in no particular order but you can rip my head off if you want, god damn.
Andre fights in 2 days
Re: Top 15 Bantamweights of all time
Posted: 27 Apr 2006, 16:14
by silkov
AndreWardFan2006 wrote:silkov wrote:AndreWardFan2006 wrote:This includes both Bantamweight and Super-Bantamweight classes and only these two.
I have 14 but I cant think of another great.
(In no particular order)
1. Panama Al Brown
2. Carlos Zarate
3. Lionel Rose
4. Manuel Ortiz
5. Alfonso Zamora
6. Oscar Larios
7. Eder Jofre
8. Ruben Olivares
9. Jeff Chandler
10. Orlando Canizales
11. Fighting Harada
12. Lupe Pintor
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rafael Marquez
15. ?
your thoughts?
Larios at 6!!!???.... and how can you have Olivares so low?... he destroyed Rose and would have done the same thing to Larios.... Gomez destroyed Zarate yet is below him?!!
I guess I said in no particular order but you can rip my head off if you want, god damn.
Andre fights in 2 days
I thought this thread was about the top 15 bantams of all time?... and whats the point in rating them if they are in no particular order!!!
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