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the two worst decisions i can think of at the moment are whitaker vs chavez and lewis vs holyfield 1 (the remach were lewis won was actually closer than this fight)

Any more?

Funny both mine are draws

Trinidad-De La Hoya was a pretty rough decision.

Fenech - Nelson 1 terrible.

Slugger O'Toole (Fidel Castro Smith) -v- Henry Wharton.

Syntax Error wrote:Slugger O'Toole (Fidel Castro Smith) -v- Henry Wharton.

That was without question the worst decision I have ever seen.

I was watching some old fights on DVD last weekend and the Morales-Barrera I and Holmes-Witherspoon ones didn't look too smart either!

J

john2345 wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:Slugger O'Toole (Fidel Castro Smith) -v- Henry Wharton.

That was without question the worst decision I have ever seen.

I was watching some old fights on DVD last weekend and the Morales-Barrera I and Holmes-Witherspoon ones didn't look too smart either!

J

Wharton was embarrassed to get the decision & quite rightly.

It was truly shocking.

Coetzee vs Snipes - An absolutle disgrace of a decision.

RazorKO wrote:Coetzee vs Snipes - An absolutle disgrace of a decision.

I agree.

Oquendo v Bird Oquendo won
Sturm v DLH Sturm won
DLH v Mosley II DLH won

What about Tyson -v- Ruddock 2?

Tyson won it for sure, but when you consider all the points he had docked, he should not have won it by such a large margin IMO, as neither fighter was particularly impressive & just stood in front of each other throwing single shots.

Syntax Error wrote:What about Tyson -v- Ruddock 2?

Tyson won it for sure, but when you consider all the points he had docked, he should not have won it by such a large margin IMO, as neither fighter was particularly impressive & just stood in front of each other throwing single shots.

Even though I am a massive fan of Ruddock, I thought the decision was fair. Tyson did lose a couple of points but Ruddock was also as dirty by hitting after the bell etc.

Without the point deductions Tyson won this fight easily, but with them than Tyson won this fight very comfortably. But Ruddock showed even though his jaw was broke in the 2nd round, he was here to stay.

Augustus vs Burton

Particularly bad decisions in heavyweight history have been

Sharkey-Schmeling II SD15
Louis-Walcott I SD15
Ali-Norton III UD15
Foreman-Schulz MD12
Holyfield-Lewis I Draw12


Foreman-Schulz was probably the worst but also the least significant.

Kid Gavilan - Billy Graham 1951. The ref needed a police escort out of the arena.

Mattyp151 wrote:Trinidad-De La Hoya was a pretty rough decision.

No.

Alfredo Escalera - Tyrone Everret.

pundit wrote:

Mattyp151 wrote:Trinidad-De La Hoya was a pretty rough decision.

No.

Brilliant....you showed me....

Mattyp151 wrote:

pundit wrote:

Mattyp151 wrote:Trinidad-De La Hoya was a pretty rough decision.

No.

Brilliant....you showed me....

Nothing to show here. DLH-Trinidad was a narrow fight, with most observers giving it by one or (at most) two rounds to one fighter or the other. You may feel DLH won, others don't.

This has nothing to do with the thread topic, or the other fights that are listed here.

pundit wrote:

Mattyp151 wrote:

pundit wrote: No.

Brilliant....you showed me....

Nothing to show here. DLH-Trinidad was a narrow fight, with most observers giving it by one or (at most) two rounds to one fighter or the other. You may feel DLH won, others don't.

This has nothing to do with the thread topic, or the other fights that are listed here.

It's fights you think were bad decisions....I think this was a bad decision. It's an opinion based topic, I don't understand how I could be wrong.

Mattyp151 wrote:It's fights you think were bad decisions....I think this was a bad decision. It's an opinion based topic, I don't understand how I could be wrong.

Wel, if you turn every (or every other) close fight into a "bad decision", you seem to take a bad decision....

pundit wrote:

Mattyp151 wrote:It's fights you think were bad decisions....I think this was a bad decision. It's an opinion based topic, I don't understand how I could be wrong.

Wel, if you turn every (or every other) close fight into a "bad decision", you seem to take a bad decision....

I don't turn every close decision into a bad one, so your point is moot. This PARTICULAR close decision I felt was a pretty bad decision.

pundit wrote:Particularly bad decisions in heavyweight history have been

Sharkey-Schmeling II SD15
Louis-Walcott I SD15
Ali-Norton III UD15
Foreman-Schulz MD12
Holyfield-Lewis I Draw12


Foreman-Schulz was probably the worst but also the least significant.

Some of these are simply controversial when you have substantial minority (as in the case of Ali Norton) professing it should have gone the other way. The ones that are more interesting is when you have an actual majority of viewers thinking it was wrong. Foreman Shulz is probably the only one in that catagory.... oops I would say Holyfield Lewis fits that as well, Id say that was a jaw dropper too.

And these other fights were at least close.....are there more blatant examples?

Briggs Foreman seemed to be pretty evenly split in terms of popular opinion as well.

rufus payne wrote:Augustus vs Burton

Damnit! you beat me to this one. I couldn't believe how bad Augustus got raped in this fight. Whatever happened when they reviewed the decision?

BoxBuzz wrote:

pundit wrote:Particularly bad decisions in heavyweight history have been

Sharkey-Schmeling II SD15
Louis-Walcott I SD15
Ali-Norton III UD15
Foreman-Schulz MD12
Holyfield-Lewis I Draw12


Foreman-Schulz was probably the worst but also the least significant.

Some of these are simply controversial when you have substantial minority (as in the case of Ali Norton) professing it should have gone the other way. The ones that are more interesting is when you have an actual majority of viewers thinking it was wrong. Foreman Shulz is probably the only one in that catagory.... oops I would say Holyfield Lewis fits that as well, Id say that was a jaw dropper too.

And these other fights were at least close.....are there more blatant examples?

Briggs Foreman seemed to be pretty evenly split in terms of popular opinion as well.

Well, in the case of Sharkey vs. Schmeling 23 out of 25 sports writers at the ring had Schmeling winning. It was similar albeit less extreme with Louis vs. Walcott. As for Ali vs. Norton III Ali himself admitted afterwards that he had lost.

pundit wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:

pundit wrote:Particularly bad decisions in heavyweight history have been

Sharkey-Schmeling II SD15
Louis-Walcott I SD15
Ali-Norton III UD15
Foreman-Schulz MD12
Holyfield-Lewis I Draw12


Foreman-Schulz was probably the worst but also the least significant.

Some of these are simply controversial when you have substantial minority (as in the case of Ali Norton) professing it should have gone the other way. The ones that are more interesting is when you have an actual majority of viewers thinking it was wrong. Foreman Shulz is probably the only one in that catagory.... oops I would say Holyfield Lewis fits that as well, Id say that was a jaw dropper too.

And these other fights were at least close.....are there more blatant examples?

Briggs Foreman seemed to be pretty evenly split in terms of popular opinion as well.

Well, in the case of Sharkey vs. Schmeling 23 out of 25 sports writers at the ring had Schmeling winning. It was similar albeit less extreme with Louis vs. Walcott. As for Ali vs. Norton III Ali himself admitted afterwards that he had lost.

Yep the Schmeling affair is probably a good example sorry about that, but I don't agree on Norton Ali anyway you slice that fight it was close. I happened to be in the majority that thinks Ali won.

Ali was humble whenever he fought a close fight, because he always expected to win big. So to him it was a loss.