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How would the recent welterweight stars fair against.......

Posted: 29 Apr 2006, 07:47
by Grimm
How would the welterweight stars of recent times fair against the old school ones.

Ex:Ike Quartey,Felix Trinidad,Vernon Forrest,Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley,Pernell Whitaker and Floyd Mayweather Jr.

How would these guys do against the likes of Ray Robinson, Kid Gavilan, Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns,Roberto Duran and Pipino Cuevas?

I personally think Whitaker and Mayweather are the only ones that really stand a chance anyone think otherwise?

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Posted: 29 Apr 2006, 08:09
by barry
Whitaker and Mayweather are two of the three that I feel would have the least chance...along with Vernon Forrest. Skill-wise Whitaker and Mayweather are right along side those mentioned, but Whitaker and Mayweather both were and are very small welterweights. They would be competitive no doubt, but in the end I think the natural welterweights are just too strong for either.

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Posted: 29 Apr 2006, 08:18
by Grimm
barry wrote:Whitaker and Mayweather are two of the three that I feel would have the least chance...along with Vernon Forrest. Skill-wise Whitaker and Mayweather are right along side those mentioned, but Whitaker and Mayweather both were and are very small welterweights. They would be competitive no doubt, but in the end I think the natural welterweights are just too strong for either.
Who do you think would do better?

Re: How would the recent welterweight stars fair against....

Posted: 29 Apr 2006, 17:15
by surf-bat
Grimm wrote:How would the welterweight stars of recent times fair against the old school ones.

Ex:Ike Quartey,Felix Trinidad,Vernon Forrest,Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley,Pernell Whitaker and Floyd Mayweather Jr.

How would these guys do against the likes of Ray Robinson, Kid Gavilan, Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns,Roberto Duran and Pipino Cuevas?

I personally think Whitaker and Mayweather are the only ones that really stand a chance anyone think otherwise?
Whitaker was damn near unhittable at 135-140. At welter he was more vulnerable(his coke problem didn't help either). I think both PW and FM are too small to match well against the best 145lbers of history. They would box Cuevas silly, but lose badly to Hearns(a fighter who actually got BETTER when he moved up in weight), Leonard and the like. Napoles they might beat as he moved up from lower weights as well, but I wouldn't bet on it. Jose was quite a fighter.

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Posted: 02 May 2006, 06:44
by barry
>>>Who do you think would do better?<<<

De La Hoya, or an in shape and primed Ike Quartey and of course Trinidad's power would make him a very live opponent for anyone. Overall though De La Hoya was a more complete, all-around fighter than any of the otheers mentioned. If Mosley had carried his punch up to welterweight from lightweight then he would be a hard fighter to vote against. All in all though De La Hoya would get my vote! Of the six other fighters mentioned De La Hoya fought four and arguably beat all four though he was given bum decision losses against Trinidad and against Mosley in they're second bout.