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Abraham vs Jantuah
Posted: 10 May 2006, 18:31
by stujones
Very interesting Middleweight title fight in Germany on Saturday.... Could be explosive - two real bangers.
Do you think Jantuah being a one time Welterweight contender is a huge factor. He always seemed quite big as a Light Middle and carried huge power at that weight.... How much will another move up effect his power, plus he is getting on.
So far, Abraham has been hit and miss as a champion - looking like a superstar in the making vs Ikeke, but looking like a limited fighter in vs Eastman and Taylor....
Jantuah isn't the greatest technical boxer and has suspect stamina, based on the Ouma showing... But I think posses a damn sight more of a threat than Taylor did. However, has Ouma's form post Jantuah (remember he did beat him comprehensively) indicate what Jantuah's real level is.
Should be a good one, Markus Beyer officially tops the bill - but this is the one I am looking forward to.
Posted: 11 May 2006, 00:05
by Freiheit
Both fights are live on ARD and Beyer's fight will be first.
Re: Abraham vs Jantuah
Posted: 11 May 2006, 03:20
by BubiScholz
stujones wrote:Very interesting Middleweight title fight in Germany on Saturday.... Could be explosive - two real bangers.
Do you think Jantuah being a one time Welterweight contender is a huge factor. He always seemed quite big as a Light Middle and carried huge power at that weight.... How much will another move up effect his power, plus he is getting on.
So far, Abraham has been hit and miss as a champion - looking like a superstar in the making vs Ikeke, but looking like a limited fighter in vs Eastman and Taylor....
Jantuah isn't the greatest technical boxer and has suspect stamina, based on the Ouma showing... But I think posses a damn sight more of a threat than Taylor did. However, has Ouma's form post Jantuah (remember he did beat him comprehensively) indicate what Jantuah's real level is.
Should be a good one, Markus Beyer officially tops the bill - but this is the one I am looking forward to.
Arthur won clearly vs Taylor and showed top class vs Ikeke. 80-90% on this forum here saw Ikeke as favourite.
Vs Eastman he didn´t look good, but did Hopkins look good vs Eastman? Eastmans style makes you look awful.....
Of course Arthur is not already a complete boxer. He is 3 years a pro and very young and can make it to the top because of his power. Sinan Samil Sam once said that he has a harder punch than many heavyweights.....
Arthur will step up and hold some titles in Super Middle and LHW.
Posted: 11 May 2006, 06:45
by steve689
Let's see if he can be a force at Middleweight though first. I think this fight will be the best on the card as stu mentioned, the Beyer fight is another none event as far as i am concerned.
Posted: 11 May 2006, 07:01
by knockout
steve689 wrote:Let's see if he can be a force at Middleweight though first. I think this fight will be the best on the card as stu mentioned, the Beyer fight is another none event as far as i am concerned.
The Beyer fight i find quite intriguing...
Bika pushed Soliman closer than most opponents and it was very early in his career... i think Bika may surprise a few people. I would rather see him as an opponent for Abrahams mind you as he seems to be a natural middle not super middle
Juntuah is surely going to struggle at the bigger weight, as evidenced by old for Gilbert Eastmans showing against Gary Lockett
Posted: 11 May 2006, 07:23
by BubiScholz
steve689 wrote:Let's see if he can be a force at Middleweight though first. I think this fight will be the best on the card as stu mentioned, the Beyer fight is another none event as far as i am concerned.
I only see Adamek and Calzaghe who are actually far better than Arthur, plus in Middle Wright and Taylor who both don´t want to fight Arthur.
Re: Abraham vs Jantuah
Posted: 11 May 2006, 07:29
by stujones
BubiScholz wrote:stujones wrote:Very interesting Middleweight title fight in Germany on Saturday.... Could be explosive - two real bangers.
Do you think Jantuah being a one time Welterweight contender is a huge factor. He always seemed quite big as a Light Middle and carried huge power at that weight.... How much will another move up effect his power, plus he is getting on.
So far, Abraham has been hit and miss as a champion - looking like a superstar in the making vs Ikeke, but looking like a limited fighter in vs Eastman and Taylor....
Jantuah isn't the greatest technical boxer and has suspect stamina, based on the Ouma showing... But I think posses a damn sight more of a threat than Taylor did. However, has Ouma's form post Jantuah (remember he did beat him comprehensively) indicate what Jantuah's real level is.
Should be a good one, Markus Beyer officially tops the bill - but this is the one I am looking forward to.
Arthur won clearly vs Taylor and showed top class vs Ikeke. 80-90% on this forum here saw Ikeke as favourite.
Vs Eastman he didn´t look good, but did Hopkins look good vs Eastman? Eastmans style makes you look awful.....
Of course Arthur is not already a complete boxer. He is 3 years a pro and very young and can make it to the top because of his power. Sinan Samil Sam once said that he has a harder punch than many heavyweights.....
Arthur will step up and hold some titles in Super Middle and LHW.
Yes, but there is a difference between not looking good and winning clearly than not looking good and struggling. Hopkins vs Eastman was kinda like Abraham vs Taylor - didn't look great but won by a shutout.
Abraham vs Eastman was very close.
Re: Abraham vs Jantuah
Posted: 11 May 2006, 07:48
by BubiScholz
stujones wrote:BubiScholz wrote:stujones wrote:Very interesting Middleweight title fight in Germany on Saturday.... Could be explosive - two real bangers.
Do you think Jantuah being a one time Welterweight contender is a huge factor. He always seemed quite big as a Light Middle and carried huge power at that weight.... How much will another move up effect his power, plus he is getting on.
So far, Abraham has been hit and miss as a champion - looking like a superstar in the making vs Ikeke, but looking like a limited fighter in vs Eastman and Taylor....
Jantuah isn't the greatest technical boxer and has suspect stamina, based on the Ouma showing... But I think posses a damn sight more of a threat than Taylor did. However, has Ouma's form post Jantuah (remember he did beat him comprehensively) indicate what Jantuah's real level is.
Should be a good one, Markus Beyer officially tops the bill - but this is the one I am looking forward to.
Arthur won clearly vs Taylor and showed top class vs Ikeke. 80-90% on this forum here saw Ikeke as favourite.
Vs Eastman he didn´t look good, but did Hopkins look good vs Eastman? Eastmans style makes you look awful.....
Of course Arthur is not already a complete boxer. He is 3 years a pro and very young and can make it to the top because of his power. Sinan Samil Sam once said that he has a harder punch than many heavyweights.....
Arthur will step up and hold some titles in Super Middle and LHW.
Yes, but there is a difference between not looking good and winning clearly than not looking good and struggling. Hopkins vs Eastman was kinda like Abraham vs Taylor - didn't look great but won by a shutout.
Abraham vs Eastman was very close.
I was at the ring and I had 8 rounds for Arthur and even the british guys had Arthur in front. Eastman did too less. But don´t forget that at this moment Eastman was a #3 in the division with a loss vs Hopkins and a debatable loss vs Joppy. It was a big first test for Arthur.