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Hatton wins ugly!
Posted: 14 May 2006, 00:00
by Cannibal
On that performance I think Mayweather would destroy Hatton. No jabs, less body shots than normal and smothered his own work.
I scored it 115-112 to Hatton, same as 2 of the judges. If you went by the Sky panelists, Piper, Nelson and Hart it would of been a MD to Collazo which I think is stretching it a bit.
Hatton needs a second gameplan rather than just charging forward all the time.
I don't think Hatton is comfortable at Welter and didn't seem to have the same amount of energy that he had at Light Welter. I also don't expect Hatton to be taking on any more southpaws in the near future.
Posted: 14 May 2006, 00:04
by Neri
No need for my spoiler heading now

Posted: 14 May 2006, 00:06
by Cannibal
Bah, why come to a boxing site if you don't expect to see boxing headlines? Tis a couple of topics spoiling it on the Current Scene as well.
Posted: 14 May 2006, 00:13
by hitman_hatton1
hatton did enuff.
but it wasn't very good was it.
tough opponent and he managed to spoil and offset hatton quite badly at times.
i'd like to see hatton go back down to 140 as well and fight castillo and someone more straight forward.

Re: Hatton wins ugly!
Posted: 14 May 2006, 00:14
by mattym
Cannibal wrote:On that performance I think Mayweather would destroy Hatton. No jabs, less body shots than normal and smothered his own work.
I scored it 115-112 to Hatton, same as 2 of the judges. If you went by the Sky panelists, Piper, Nelson and Hart it would of been a MD to Collazo which I think is stretching it a bit.
Hatton needs a second gameplan rather than just charging forward all the time.
I don't think Hatton is comfortable at Welter and didn't seem to have the same amount of energy that he had at Light Welter. I also don't expect Hatton to be taking on any more southpaws in the near future.
I agree with most of what you have said. But lets be a bit sober and fair for a second, yes hatton wasnt quite his usual self, but he was fighting the worst possible type of opponent, in his first match at welter. Luis is tall, r a n g y, a southpaw, good movement, and above all he has been a welter since the age of 15! I think this was always huuuuge risk for the hitman and he did well to come up trumps.
Posted: 14 May 2006, 00:17
by lvlarc
I thought Hatton definetly won that fight, by at least 2 points. It's true Collazo was landing the cleaner punches, but he wasn't landing enough. Hatton was right on top of him in every round. The ref could of warned for holding too.
Billy needs to take note of this fight, and get Hatton using his jab in future.
Posted: 14 May 2006, 00:21
by hitman_hatton1
lvlarc_uk wrote:I thought Hatton definetly won that fight, by at least 2 points. It's true Collazo was landing the cleaner punches, but he wasn't landing enough. Hatton was right on top of him in every round. The ref could of warned for holding too.
Billy needs to take note of this fight, and get Hatton using his jab in future.
i thought your rd by rd scorecard on the current scene was just about bang on.
hatton won the fight a bit wider than most seem to have it i thought.

and no i'm not being biased.

Posted: 14 May 2006, 00:26
by lvlarc
hitman_hatton1 wrote:lvlarc_uk wrote:I thought Hatton definetly won that fight, by at least 2 points. It's true Collazo was landing the cleaner punches, but he wasn't landing enough. Hatton was right on top of him in every round. The ref could of warned for holding too.
Billy needs to take note of this fight, and get Hatton using his jab in future.
i thought your rd by rd scorecard on the current scene was just about bang on.
hatton won the fight a bit wider than most seem to have it i thought.

and no i'm not being biased.


It doesn't help though scoring a fight at 5am, watching it on a stream that cuts out the first 15 seconds of every round
Will probably download the fight tomorrow or catch it on Sky next week.
I'm just glad he got the win and now move onto bigger things!

Posted: 14 May 2006, 00:27
by mattym
lvlarc_uk wrote:Billy needs to take note of this fight, and get Hatton using his jab in future.
i think they were a bit unwise because they had forgotten about the jab thinking it was not important and would be their downfall against a 7inch reach advantage. They have got to remember that even in ricky's case, the jab is the most important thing in an elite boxer's arsenal.
Re: Hatton wins ugly!
Posted: 14 May 2006, 00:29
by Cannibal
mattym wrote:Cannibal wrote:On that performance I think Mayweather would destroy Hatton. No jabs, less body shots than normal and smothered his own work.
I scored it 115-112 to Hatton, same as 2 of the judges. If you went by the Sky panelists, Piper, Nelson and Hart it would of been a MD to Collazo which I think is stretching it a bit.
Hatton needs a second gameplan rather than just charging forward all the time.
I don't think Hatton is comfortable at Welter and didn't seem to have the same amount of energy that he had at Light Welter. I also don't expect Hatton to be taking on any more southpaws in the near future.
I agree with most of what you have said. But lets be a bit sober and fair for a second, yes hatton wasnt quite his usual self, but he was fighting the worst possible type of opponent, in his first match at welter. Luis is tall, r a n g y, a southpaw, good movement, and above all he has been a welter since the age of 15! I think this was always huuuuge risk for the hitman and he did well to come up trumps.
Yes, Hatton was fighting a difficult opponent but he didn't change a thing to adapt to that opponent, in fact he dropped some things such as his jab. In his last 2 fights I think Hatton has actually regressed a bit, he needs to polish up his technique again and put ugly displays such as this one and the Maussa fight behind him.
Re: Hatton wins ugly!
Posted: 14 May 2006, 01:47
by shoutout
Cannibal wrote:mattym wrote:Cannibal wrote:On that performance I think Mayweather would destroy Hatton. No jabs, less body shots than normal and smothered his own work.
I scored it 115-112 to Hatton, same as 2 of the judges. If you went by the Sky panelists, Piper, Nelson and Hart it would of been a MD to Collazo which I think is stretching it a bit.
Hatton needs a second gameplan rather than just charging forward all the time.
I don't think Hatton is comfortable at Welter and didn't seem to have the same amount of energy that he had at Light Welter. I also don't expect Hatton to be taking on any more southpaws in the near future.
I agree with most of what you have said. But lets be a bit sober and fair for a second, yes hatton wasnt quite his usual self, but he was fighting the worst possible type of opponent, in his first match at welter. Luis is tall, r a n g y, a southpaw, good movement, and above all he has been a welter since the age of 15! I think this was always huuuuge risk for the hitman and he did well to come up trumps.
Yes, Hatton was fighting a difficult opponent but he didn't change a thing to adapt to that opponent, in fact he dropped some things such as his jab. In his last 2 fights I think Hatton has actually regressed a bit, he needs to polish up his technique again and put ugly displays such as this one and the Maussa fight behind him.
could it possibly be that the tszyu was the aberration & the collazo & maussa fights provide more of a snapshot of the real ricky hatton?!?
Posted: 14 May 2006, 01:50
by Syntax Error
Another title for the Manchester maverick!!!!
To be honest, I don't think he'd stand a chance against FW, but never say never, I suppose.
Posted: 14 May 2006, 03:23
by jeej
Syntax Error wrote:Another title for the Manchester maverick!!!!
To be honest, I don't think he'd stand a chance against
FW, but never say never, I suppose.
He's fighting allegedly?!

Posted: 14 May 2006, 05:13
by Syntax Error
jeej wrote:Syntax Error wrote:Another title for the Manchester maverick!!!!
To be honest, I don't think he'd stand a chance against
FW, but never say never, I suppose.
He's fighting allegedly allegedly?!

LOL!!!!
My mistake. I meant FM!!!!

Posted: 14 May 2006, 06:55
by stujones
Its not just Floyd Mayweather I think he'll struggle with - Floyd will make him look a bit silly, unfortunately. Margarito will be too strong - Think Collazo will beat him if he gets a rematch.
Anybody still think Hatton vs Gatti is a mismatch.
Posted: 14 May 2006, 07:59
by lirva33
Imagine Witter hitting Hatton like Collazo did? Corley or Judah even?
Hatton is nothing more than a bully. If he was american, this board would be diffferent but we have blind nutslurping dicksuckers riding his weiner. Hatton was BEATEN by Collazo last night.
Posted: 14 May 2006, 08:24
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
lirva33 wrote:Imagine Witter hitting Hatton like Collazo did? Corley or Judah even?
Hatton is nothing more than a bully. If he was american, this board would be diffferent but we have blind nutslurping dicksuckers riding his weiner. Hatton was BEATEN by Collazo last night.
Collazos better than Corley and works allot harder than Judah and Witter
Posted: 14 May 2006, 08:27
by lirva33
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:lirva33 wrote:Imagine Witter hitting Hatton like Collazo did? Corley or Judah even?
Hatton is nothing more than a bully. If he was american, this board would be diffferent but we have blind nutslurping dicksuckers riding his weiner. Hatton was BEATEN by Collazo last night.
Collazos better than Corley and works allot harder than Judah and Witter
no.
All 3 are MILES better than Collazo. You are trying to keep up this "genius" angle.
Get a life.
Posted: 14 May 2006, 08:42
by Autobarn
lirva33 wrote:Imagine Witter hitting Hatton like Collazo did? Corley or Judah even?
Hatton is nothing more than a bully. If he was american, this board would be diffferent but we have blind nutslurping dicksuckers riding his weiner. Hatton was BEATEN by Collazo last night.
the first two aren't welterweights - which was a pretty big factor last night - and judah would have folded under the pressure that ricky showed in the first 4 rds, zab not being tough enough to function under attacks like that
Posted: 14 May 2006, 09:27
by JimmyJamJerusalem
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No pleasing some people. Hatton finally getting involved in competetive close fights, and people still moan about him.
Had Collazo been orthadox Hatton would have crushed him. He just seems to struggle with the southpaws.
Fair shout to the lad, he had to dig in and he did. I bet he's learnt some valuable lessons along the way too. Well done Ricky.

Posted: 14 May 2006, 09:43
by Jacko11
Hatton fights are never ever clean they are always ugly thats his style....i really thought he lost it though it was close....Mayweather must be smilling now
Posted: 14 May 2006, 09:56
by mattym
Jacko11 wrote:Hatton fights are never ever clean they are always ugly thats his style....i really thought he lost it though it was close....Mayweather must be smilling now
to be honest, i thought mayweather looked just as beatable against zab and showed just as many weaknesses as hatton did last night. Ricky's opponent didnt go to sleep after round 6, ricky's opponent is a strong welter who can bang, ricky's opponent has good handspeed, ricky's opponent had a 7.5 inch reach advantage, ricky didn't get knocked down.