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Someone on the British forum has just described Sugar Ray Leonard as "very fast but dull."
You couldn't make it up if you tried.

bennie wrote:Someone on the British forum has just described Sugar Ray Leonard as "very fast but dull."
You couldn't make it up if you tried.

Brave statement.

Bobby Charlton was an OK socccer player but nothing special, really. In the end he just kicked the ball around.

bennie wrote:Someone on the British forum has just described Sugar Ray Leonard as "very fast but dull."
You couldn't make it up if you tried.

Yeah, I agree.

So were Bobby Chacon, John Mugabi, Aaron Pryor and Mike Tyson.

Like watching paint dry

Sugar Ray Leonard was about as exciting as kissing your sister. Providing of course your name was Caligula.

Seamus wrote:Sugar Ray Leonard was about as exciting as kissing your sister. Providing of course your name was Caligula.

i think leonard was a lil' over rated
but he was not boring.

Meisinger

Leonard's one of my all time favorite fighters. I was making a historical joke.

bennie wrote:Someone on the British forum has just described Sugar Ray Leonard as "very fast but dull."
You couldn't make it up if you tried.

actually, i was making it up. can't believe you've done a whole thread on this! though when he had his running shoes onhe could be infuriating (i hated the duran rematch, and frankly, he wasn't doing too much in the first 6 rds vs hearns)

viciousmaussa wrote:

bennie wrote:Someone on the British forum has just described Sugar Ray Leonard as "very fast but dull."
You couldn't make it up if you tried.

actually, i was making it up. can't believe you've done a whole thread on this! though when he had his running shoes onhe could be infuriating (i hated the duran rematch, and frankly, he wasn't doing too much in the first 6 rds vs hearns)

Round six of the first fight is one of the greatest rounds of all time.

Collins2000 wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:

bennie wrote:Someone on the British forum has just described Sugar Ray Leonard as "very fast but dull."
You couldn't make it up if you tried.

actually, i was making it up. can't believe you've done a whole thread on this! though when he had his running shoes onhe could be infuriating (i hated the duran rematch, and frankly, he wasn't doing too much in the first 6 rds vs hearns)

First or second fight, mr shitty dick?

hearns 1, though he had lots of quiet spots in the 2nd one also interspersed with the odd explosive atack

bennie wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:

bennie wrote:Someone on the British forum has just described Sugar Ray Leonard as "very fast but dull."
You couldn't make it up if you tried.

actually, i was making it up. can't believe you've done a whole thread on this! though when he had his running shoes onhe could be infuriating (i hated the duran rematch, and frankly, he wasn't doing too much in the first 6 rds vs hearns)

Round six of the first fight is one of the greatest rounds of all time.

ok, the first 5 then, feint and run

But even when Ray wasn't doing much, he still looked amazing. He just oozed style in the ring, his footwork and composure were great to look at.
He was that type of fighter, and when he exploded it was pure perfection, really beautiful to watch.

We do seem to be getting rather a lot of riffraff about these days!... personally I think anyone who thinks SugarRay is dull should be teleported over to the dogpen forum, and have to spend the reast of his internet life in exile over THERE!. 8)

viciousmaussa wrote:

bennie wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:actually, i was making it up. can't believe you've done a whole thread on this! though when he had his running shoes onhe could be infuriating (i hated the duran rematch, and frankly, he wasn't doing too much in the first 6 rds vs hearns)

Round six of the first fight is one of the greatest rounds of all time.

ok, the first 5 then, feint and run

Its called boxing actually!

silkov wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:

bennie wrote: Round six of the first fight is one of the greatest rounds of all time.

ok, the first 5 then, feint and run

Its called boxing actually!

very little punching. i'll bet ppl were shcoked at the time. being that he was called 'sugar' you'd think he would've found a quicker way of adjusting to the superior reach of hearns

viciousmaussa wrote:

silkov wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:ok, the first 5 then, feint and run

Its called boxing actually!

very little punching. i'll bet ppl were shcoked at the time. being that he was called 'sugar' you'd think he would've found a quicker way of adjusting to the superior reach of hearns

Well he did actually win the fight didnt he?.... does the fact that he had a tough time against Hearns make him dull though?? 8) .... were his fights with Duran and Benitez dull in your humble opinion?...

silkov wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:

silkov wrote: Its called boxing actually!

very little punching. i'll bet ppl were shcoked at the time. being that he was called 'sugar' you'd think he would've found a quicker way of adjusting to the superior reach of hearns

Well he did actually win the fight didnt he?.... does the fact that he had a tough time against Hearns make him dull though?? 8) .... were his fights with Duran and Benitez dull in your humble opinion?...

nah, you've taken the dull bit too far, that was actually a joke. hearns was one of the best long reach fighters ever, and srl deserves props for findign a way. but i don't like to see that much posing. i think a lot of times he was trying just to look cool, to ave face for the fact that for massive stretches he couldn't get near him

i don't think the fight wa a masterpiece of feint-counterfeint, as ralph wiley would have it

viciousmaussa wrote:

silkov wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:very little punching. i'll bet ppl were shcoked at the time. being that he was called 'sugar' you'd think he would've found a quicker way of adjusting to the superior reach of hearns

Well he did actually win the fight didnt he?.... does the fact that he had a tough time against Hearns make him dull though?? 8) .... were his fights with Duran and Benitez dull in your humble opinion?...

nah, you've taken the dull bit too far, that was actually a joke. hearns was one of the best long reach fighters ever, and srl deserves props for findign a way. but i don't like to see that much posing. i think a lot of times he was trying just to look cool, to ave face for the fact that for massive stretches he couldn't get near him

i don't think the fight wa a masterpiece of feint-counterfeint, as ralph wiley would have it

So you don't think that he was actually letting Hearns tire himself out?...
personally I've often though that the stoppage was a bit premature for such a big fight... any one agree with me?... disagree??

silkov wrote:[So you don't think that he was actually letting Hearns tire himself out?...
personally I've often though that the stoppage was a bit premature for such a big fight... any one agree with me?... disagree??

I agreee with you Silkov that the fight was stopped a little bit premature. The same was with Benitez when the fight was stopped.

elmersalsa wrote:

silkov wrote:[So you don't think that he was actually letting Hearns tire himself out?...
personally I've often though that the stoppage was a bit premature for such a big fight... any one agree with me?... disagree??

I agreee with you Silkov that the fight was stopped a little bit premature. The same was with Benitez when the fight was stopped.

Yeah I've often though that, true, both hearns and Benitez seemed 'out' on their feet but in such a big fight you'd think they would have been given more of a chance. In the hearns fight it was very close to the end of the round wasn't it?.... maybe Tommy could have recovered between rounds for the last... and he was ahead on points.
Strangely I don't recall Hearns ever saying that the fight was stopped too early!..... did he ever mention the stoppage in this way?...

silkov wrote:

elmersalsa wrote:

silkov wrote:[So you don't think that he was actually letting Hearns tire himself out?...
personally I've often though that the stoppage was a bit premature for such a big fight... any one agree with me?... disagree??

I agreee with you Silkov that the fight was stopped a little bit premature. The same was with Benitez when the fight was stopped.

Yeah I've often though that, true, both hearns and Benitez seemed 'out' on their feet but in such a big fight you'd think they would have been given more of a chance. In the hearns fight it was very close to the end of the round wasn't it?.... maybe Tommy could have recovered between rounds for the last... and he was ahead on points.
Strangely I don't recall Hearns ever saying that the fight was stopped too early!..... did he ever mention the stoppage in this way?...

i think once you take hearns through hell, there's a point of no return where he's simply done. he was a great boxer, an awesome hitter, but his body wasn't built for taking punishment. hearns looked beaten,

didn't SRL insist the rematch be 12 rounds? if so, that was a bad call. i know he must;ve been glad to finish such a hard fight. but he had hearns battered at least 3 or 4 times - especially in the last round. in terms of rds i did have TH winning though

viciousmaussa wrote:

silkov wrote:

elmersalsa wrote: I agreee with you Silkov that the fight was stopped a little bit premature. The same was with Benitez when the fight was stopped.

Yeah I've often though that, true, both hearns and Benitez seemed 'out' on their feet but in such a big fight you'd think they would have been given more of a chance. In the hearns fight it was very close to the end of the round wasn't it?.... maybe Tommy could have recovered between rounds for the last... and he was ahead on points.
Strangely I don't recall Hearns ever saying that the fight was stopped too early!..... did he ever mention the stoppage in this way?...

i think once you take hearns through hell, there's a point of no return where he's simply done. he was a great boxer, an awesome hitter, but his body wasn't built for taking punishment. hearns looked beaten,

didn't SRL insist the rematch be 12 rounds? if so, that was a bad call. i know he must;ve been glad to finish such a hard fight. but he had hearns battered at least 3 or 4 times - especially in the last round. in terms of rds i did have TH winning though

Well remember Hearns had Ray down twice...didnt one of the judges award Suger a round 10-8 even though Hearns didnt go down?.... I seem to remember that. I think Hearns was robbed in the rematch...

silkov wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote:

silkov wrote: Yeah I've often though that, true, both hearns and Benitez seemed 'out' on their feet but in such a big fight you'd think they would have been given more of a chance. In the hearns fight it was very close to the end of the round wasn't it?.... maybe Tommy could have recovered between rounds for the last... and he was ahead on points.
Strangely I don't recall Hearns ever saying that the fight was stopped too early!..... did he ever mention the stoppage in this way?...

i think once you take hearns through hell, there's a point of no return where he's simply done. he was a great boxer, an awesome hitter, but his body wasn't built for taking punishment. hearns looked beaten,

didn't SRL insist the rematch be 12 rounds? if so, that was a bad call. i know he must;ve been glad to finish such a hard fight. but he had hearns battered at least 3 or 4 times - especially in the last round. in terms of rds i did have TH winning though

Well remember Hearns had Ray down twice...didnt one of the judges award Suger a round 10-8 even though Hearns didnt go down?.... I seem to remember that. I think Hearns was robbed in the rematch...

oh, i think hearns won the fight. he kept srl on the end of his jab for too long, plus the kds - even if one of the KDs looked suspect. leonard deserved at least one 10-8 round, he did have a few big rds but not enough. he def had hearns falling to pieces at the end however. strangely, that's one of my fave leonard fights

C'mon now, Leonard v Hearns I stopped prematurely ? Hearns couldn't stand up right in the 13th round.

Seamus wrote:C'mon now, Leonard v Hearns I stopped prematurely ? Hearns couldn't stand up right in the 13th round.

He was still standing though... I'm not saying he would have recovered but he could have been given more of a chance to get over it... for such a big fight it was quite an abrupt stoppage...