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Greatest Tactical Performance
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 12:32
by funso banjo baby
Which figher fought the greatest tactical game
my choices are
Ali V Foreman
Watson v Benn
both were underdogs and both did so much more than just wait for their opps to punch themselves out
Ali unleashed some of his best ever combos in the 1st round against foreman ...... the rope a dope was born.... the gameplan was suicidal AND IT WORKED..... could anyone but Ali have pulled it off ????
as for Michael Watson......his cupped glove defence was magnificant as was his awesome counter punching.... in the end the legendary Watson outgunned and outwitted the Dark Destroyer.........
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 12:36
by Borinken25
Hopkins vs Trinidad.
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 12:44
by pundit
Ali-Foreman is the obvious pick; but Schmeling-Louis I is another one, as is Tunney-Dempsey I. More recently Holyfield Tyson I was a piece of brilliantly executed tactics. Outside the heavyweight division Duran-Leonard and Leonard-Hagler come to mind.
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 13:22
by The Great John L
Douglas-Tyson
Quarry-Lyle
Duran-DeJesus II
Young-Foreman
Monzon-Valdez I & II
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 16:54
by bigzab
Holyfield v Bowe II
Hopkins v Tarver
Whittaker v Nelson
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:01
by pundit
On reflection, my vote goes to
Schmeling - Louis I
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:16
by theone
Pep vs. Saddler 2
Norris vs Brown 2
Whitaker vs. Ramirez 2
Barrera vs. Hamed
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:37
by BoxBuzz
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:39
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Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:40
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Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:56
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Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:56
by Seamus
Barry McGuigan vs Bernard Taylor. Take the guy with the blinding handspeed, and work his ribs at every possible opportunity while not worrying about the rest of the fight.
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:57
by BoxBuzz
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:58
by BoxBuzz
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 09:35
by pundit
That's another good one, although it had as much to do with Baer's lack of motiviation as it has with Braddock's tactics.
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 13:58
by -KOKid-
Was it Welcome Ncita who fought in orthodox stance up until he got his first titleshot and the finally switched to southpaw and remained that for the rest of his career? I am certain that would have puzzled his first opponent a great deal seeing he would have prepared for an orthdox opponent.
-KOKid-
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 14:14
by silkov
Ali vs Foreman
Pep vs Saddler 2
Hagler vs Hearns
Duran vs Dejesus 3
Duran vs Leonard 1
Duran vs Barkley
Leonard vs Hagler
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 14:47
by silkov
Decagon wrote:silkov wrote:Duran vs Dejesus 3
Perhaps the greatest performance boxing has ever seen.
Duran at his physical peak I think, show this to anyone who doesnt think Duran could 'box' eh!...
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 15:32
by BoxBuzz
Decagon wrote:-KOKid- wrote:Was it Welcome Ncita who fought in orthodox stance up until he got his first titleshot and the finally switched to southpaw and remained that for the rest of his career? I am certain that would have puzzled his first opponent a great deal seeing he would have prepared for an orthdox opponent.
-KOKid-
Actually, Felix Sturm did something like that. He was a left-handed fighter, and fought orthodox up until the last three rounds of the De la Hoya fight. With the fight in the balance, he dominated Oscar, and won the fights. Unfortunately, the judges were watching a different fight.
That performance popped in my head as soon as I saw this topic.
Nice moves in a losing performance I suppose. Decagon your pining over decisions you "wish would have happened" DLH got the W....get over it. Out of curiosity what was your score on DLH Sturm?
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 22:24
by BoxBuzz
Decagon.....this of course is a completely different kettle of fish, and you know it. I also think there should be an investigation of the knockout that Floyd Patterson may or may not have achieved over Archie Moore. To this day I think Archie was simply observing the culturally accepted "siesta time" and the ref completely misunderstood and ruled it a knockout.
Posted: 22 Jun 2006, 15:36
by kick asner
Jim Watt-Howard Davis
Vilamar Ferrnandez-Alexis Argello first fight
Salvador Sanchez-Danny Lopez both fights
Eddie Gregory-Marvin Johnson
Alan Minter-Vito Antufurmo second fight
Toney Sibson-Dwight Davidson
Posted: 23 Jun 2006, 00:14
by raulc002
Tactical?
Ron Lyle vs Foreman comes to mind lol, nah but foreal Barrera against Hamed
Posted: 23 Jun 2006, 08:12
by Flump
Just dragged these up from my memory:
Buddy McGirt-Simon Brown
Kirkland Laing- Roberto Duran
Errol Christie-Sean Mannion
Herol Graham-Chris Johnson
Larry Holmes-Ray Mercer
Posted: 23 Jun 2006, 09:11
by kick asner
Decagon wrote:kick asner wrote:Jim Watt-Howard Davis
Vilamar Ferrnandez-Alexis Argello first fight
Salvador Sanchez-Danny Lopez both fights
Eddie Gregory-Marvin Johnson
Alan Minter-Vito Antufurmo second fight
Toney Sibson-Dwight Davidson
Interesting choices. Sanchez-Lopez I is the only of your fights that I might have come up with, myself. I could probably do a good guess of your age and location from it. Were you at any of those fights?
I knew if I mentioned Marvin Johnson poeple would start to figure out I'm from Indiana.
Was not at any of those fights but one good thing about the eighties is they always had big name fighters on television almost every week. Sean Ogrady-Hilmer Kenty you could probably ad.
Posted: 23 Jun 2006, 13:14
by Seamus
How about someone explaining specificly what was so tactical about these fights listed. In alot cases, I think it was more a case of a fighter being highly motivated.
