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Keith Jones - benefit cheat and boxing centurion
Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 12:32
by dondada
Re: Keith Jones - benefit cheat and boxing centurion
Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 13:04
by E
Yeah, caught this story twice in the esteemed Currant Bun this week....
Some would argue not the brightest of crimes.... maybe he gets hit too much and should retire.....
Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 13:04
by KOJOE90
Well I'm just glad my hard earned taxes are going to such a worthy, honest person.
Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 14:57
by stujones
Yeah, thats pretty disgusting - but sure he isn't the only one.
One of the "better" journeymen, always gives his opponent a fight.
Perhaps his nickname should be Keith "Andy" Jones.
Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 17:09
by TerribleTerry
fukcing scumbag. He was a fairly dangerous as journeymen go - used to push the pace and make up n comers work.
All the more impressive considering he is 'disabled'. Its greedy scumbag w@nkers like Jones that bleed the system dry. All that money could have gone to someone far more worthy.
Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 17:18
by Old bones Ian
Unfortunatly the 'Mobility' motor that Jones was getting , proves that there are many loopholes in the system.
Some benefits such as this are not checked by giving regular medicals. Something that is currently being addressed.
The scheme when used probly is excellent, i've a family member who has severe problems and the use of the car is the only way he could resonably get about.
Posted: 30 Jun 2006, 19:04
by tonyevs
TerribleTerry wrote:fukcing scumbag. He was a fairly dangerous as journeymen go - used to push the pace and make up n comers work.
All the more impressive considering he is 'disabled'. Its greedy scumbag w@nkers like Jones that bleed the system dry. All that money could have gone to someone far more worthy.
I find the people here who are quick to slag the fella down even bigger`scumbags.
We get robbed from all angles, in all aspects of our life, and Keith gives alot more back than most here so I say big for him if he can screw them for a little back.
Look more closer to home where we get charged and to who its going to before you all close in and slaughter Keith.
Too many here get on their high horse and don`t know f-all, open your eyes and see who the real scum bags are
Tough luck Keith

Posted: 30 Jun 2006, 19:38
by knockout
tonyevs wrote:TerribleTerry wrote:fukcing scumbag. He was a fairly dangerous as journeymen go - used to push the pace and make up n comers work.
All the more impressive considering he is 'disabled'. Its greedy scumbag w@nkers like Jones that bleed the system dry. All that money could have gone to someone far more worthy.
I find the people here who are quick to slag the fella down even bigger`scumbags.
We get robbed from all angles, in all aspects of our life, and Keith gives alot more back than most here so I say big for him if he can screw them for a little back.
Look more closer to home where we get charged and to who its going to before you all close in and slaughter Keith.
Too many here get on their high horse and don`t know f-all, open your eyes and see who the real scum bags are
Tough luck Keith

sounds like you are trying condone benefit fraud?????
Posted: 30 Jun 2006, 20:10
by Owain
While I don't necessarily agree with what Keith did; I do agree with tonyevs. While you're all jumping on Keith do you mean to tell us that you have not/would not work 'on the side' while you were unemployed for example? You've never cheated the state for anything? Hmmmm I wonder.
Posted: 01 Jul 2006, 03:59
by TerribleTerry
tonyevs wrote:TerribleTerry wrote:fukcing scumbag. He was a fairly dangerous as journeymen go - used to push the pace and make up n comers work.
All the more impressive considering he is 'disabled'. Its greedy scumbag w@nkers like Jones that bleed the system dry. All that money could have gone to someone far more worthy.
I find the people here who are quick to slag the fella down even bigger`scumbags.
We get robbed from all angles, in all aspects of our life, and Keith gives alot more back than most here so I say big for him if he can screw them for a little back.
Look more closer to home where we get charged and to who its going to before you all close in and slaughter Keith.
Too many here get on their high horse and don`t know f-all, open your eyes and see who the real scum bags are
Tough luck Keith

Bollox.
I am commenting on facts here, not supposition.
Working while signing on is one thing, but faking long term (in this case many years) illness and benefitting from the excellent disabled driving system is the actions of a greedy, selfish w@nkstain who is taking this country for a ride.
As long as Keith pays back evey penny of the thousands he has cheated from the system I dont mind but I know that wont be the case. What exactly does Keith 'give back' as you say, other then get well paid for boxing regularly? You are talking utter 5hite
I know plenty tony and I know a 5hitbag when I see one. Now get that disabled sticker out of your window and get back to work you work shy fukc!

Posted: 01 Jul 2006, 06:18
by tonyevs
TerribleTerry wrote:tonyevs wrote:TerribleTerry wrote:fukcing scumbag. He was a fairly dangerous as journeymen go - used to push the pace and make up n comers work.
All the more impressive considering he is 'disabled'. Its greedy scumbag w@nkers like Jones that bleed the system dry. All that money could have gone to someone far more worthy.
I find the people here who are quick to slag the fella down even bigger`scumbags.
We get robbed from all angles, in all aspects of our life, and Keith gives alot more back than most here so I say big for him if he can screw them for a little back.
Look more closer to home where we get charged and to who its going to before you all close in and slaughter Keith.
Too many here get on their high horse and don`t know f-all, open your eyes and see who the real scum bags are
Tough luck Keith

Bollox.
I am commenting on facts here, not supposition.
Working while signing on is one thing, but faking long term (in this case many years) illness and benefitting from the excellent disabled driving system is the actions of a greedy, selfish w@nkstain who is taking this country for a ride.
As long as Keith pays back evey penny of the thousands he has cheated from the system I dont mind but I know that wont be the case. What exactly does Keith 'give back' as you say, other then get well paid for boxing regularly? You are talking utter 5hite
I know plenty tony and I know a 5hitbag when I see one. Now get that disabled sticker out of your window and get back to work you work shy fukc!

This just confirms what I basically thought of you
Complete twat
Keith was working fulltime legit, and boxing in between, just didn`t cancel the car on mobility....hardly sat on his arse living the life of a pampered student that I imagine you are doing.
And for the record I have nothing what so ever against somebody grabbing a little back, I believe its mostly the jealous types that object the most...and if they knew how to get away with it they would be doing it the most

Posted: 01 Jul 2006, 06:25
by KOJOE90
Claiming to have a disability when you don't have one, or don't have one anymore is a very nasty thing to do even more so when you are getting financial benefits by doing so.
Just my opinion on this topic in general.
Posted: 01 Jul 2006, 07:28
by TerribleTerry
tonyevs wrote:
This just confirms what I basically thought of you
Complete twat
Keith was working fulltime legit, and boxing in between, just didn`t cancel the car on mobility....hardly sat on his arse living the life of a pampered student that I imagine you are doing.
And for the record I have nothing what so ever against somebody grabbing a little back, I believe its mostly the jealous types that object the most...and if they knew how to get away with it they would be doing it the most

I am no student - I work full time and have done all my life.
'just didnt cancel the car mobility' - so easily done isnt it? Just completely slips your mind not to give back the brand new car given to you gratis by the state. Pull the fukcing other one Tony, how gullable do you think people are!!
Keith wasnt
'grabbing a little back' as you make it so innocently sound, he was defrauding money and services from a very worthy and important sector of the NHS.
I value my health and thank my lucky stars everyday that I am fit and healthy enough to go out and GRAFT for a living to provide for my family. As you say Keith was grafting, boxing and STILL wanted more - greed is an ugly character trait.
There are loads of people out there defrauding this sysem with bogus claims and all are scumbags in my eyes. Anyone can tell he doctor they are depressed, have a bad back ec and get signed off work long term through being idle but I for one have PRIDE, self worth and can stand on my own two feet in life and pay my bills with help from no-one.
You want to get some self respect Tony, it might improve your own feeling of self worth
If someone has a legit claim to such services, then good luck to em and I hope it helps improve ther quality of life - c u n ts like you Tony who want something for nothing and feel the state owes them to pamper their fat lazy arses make me sick.
Posted: 01 Jul 2006, 08:45
by dondada
Tonyevs - you are full to the brim of excrement. He robbed taxpayers (I certainly am one of them) of nearly 20 grand.
In the few times I've had to try and get benefit, I don't know the system enough to be able to get anything. I was once briefly out of work for a month and apparently entitled to nothing. This is after paying taxes all my working life. As it turned out, I was entitled but you have to know the system to claim for it.
'Grabbing a little back'? You poor, bewildered man.
He wasn't working 'full time legit' was he? He was fraudulently claiming benefit so wasn't legit.
Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 17:13
by tonyevs
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Tonyevs - you are full to the brim of excrement. He robbed taxpayers (I certainly am one of them) of nearly 20 grand.
In the few times I've had to try and get benefit, I don't know the system enough to be able to get anything. I was once briefly out of work for a month and apparently entitled to nothing. This is after paying taxes all my working life. As it turned out, I was entitled but you have to know the system to claim for it.
'Grabbing a little back'? You poor, bewildered man.
He wasn't working 'full time legit' was he? He was fraudulently claiming benefit so wasn't legit.
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So you can write crap about other things not just boxing
It sounds like sour grapes because you could not claim, because you admit you gave it a go....your a blatant hypocrit
Like I wrote earlier, the ones who complain the most are the ones who given the chance would grab the most...but can`t...so are jealous
Stick to your webpage of boxing if that makes you feel some how important, but don`t forget who you really are, a nobody writing on a nothing web page

Posted: 03 Jul 2006, 17:44
by TerribleTerry
and who exactly are you tonyevs??
What have you ever acheived other then poncing off the state?
loser
Posted: 04 Jul 2006, 12:18
by dondada
tonyevs wrote:
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So you can write crap about other things not just boxing
It sounds like sour grapes because you could not claim, because you admit you gave it a go....your a blatant hypocrit
Like I wrote earlier, the ones who complain the most are the ones who given the chance would grab the most...but can`t...so are jealous
Stick to your webpage of boxing if that makes you feel some how important, but don`t forget who you really are, a nobody writing on a nothing web page

I gave it a go when I was entitled to and got nothing after paying into the system for years. You can't even spell hypocrite, you silly twat.
And hey, I'm not just a nobody who writes on a nothing web
page. It's a
website, you dense, confused c unt.
Posted: 04 Jul 2006, 18:22
by states
tonyevs, you are so, so in the wrong. How is it right for a man to claim money that isn't his? Let me guess, you're happy to moan about immigrants/asylum seekers claiming your tax money, yes? Do you actually pay Taxes? Jones is in the wrong here. There are no excuses.
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 05:02
by DavidPayne
I sell equipment aimed at the people with special needs.
Its hard due to cutbacks.
Those cutbacks are caused by wasting of tax payer's money.
Some of that waste is due to fraudulent bums like Keith Jones.
Everyone makes mistakes, but we're talking about a brand new car for a disability that didn't stop him boxing for a living.
We're not talking about running a internet dating company here.
He was fighting.
Erm.....disabled?
Tonyevs
I'veno personal beef with you on this...but lets not claim this is anything but Keioth shafting the system.
If you cant do the time.....
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 08:57
by Andy Mac
Whilst i totally agree that it is wrong for people to collect benefit whilst they are fit like Kieth Jones did, I can understand some of what tonevy is saying. I am indeed off work with BACK problems, and some right wing dickheads on here and in society in general would deny people like me anything other than the most basic existence. I only wish that they could go through this constant pain and not be able to lean over the basin in the mornings to even clean their teeth without it feeling like the osteo-arthritis we've got is stabbing you in the spine. Its not like a poofy toothache that you can get rid of by having it pulled its never ending day and night. However some pricks would have us living in a room with a bare light bulb with no access to a TV, never mind a computer, and probably licking envelopes for tuppence per thousand so that some fat greedy mail order company wanker can buy his fat slag of a wife a new Mercedes.
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 09:22
by mattym
DavidPayne wrote:I sell equipment aimed at the people with special needs.
Its hard due to cutbacks.
Those cutbacks are caused by wasting of tax payer's money.
Some of that waste is due to fraudulent bums like Keith Jones.
Everyone makes mistakes, but we're talking about a brand new car for a disability that didn't stop him boxing for a living.
We're not talking about running a internet dating company here.
He was fighting.
Erm.....disabled?
Tonyevs
I'veno personal beef with you on this...but lets not claim this is anything but Keioth shafting the system.
If you cant do the time.....
I bet when Keith Jones was given the car he remarked in andy's lazy voice... "i cant drive". This guy doesnt deserve the defense he is getting from tonyevs.
Andy Mac i am very sorry to hear about your condition but it doesnt relate to what tonyevs was saying because Keith Jones IS NOT disabled. Nobody here has stated any problem with their tax money going out in the right amounts to the right people etc. so tonyevs is bang out snapping at people and dishing abuse. If he wants to have a go at someone about the lack of money given to help the disabled find their feet (pun not intended), then he is in the wrong place, as no one has done anything more than object to Jones' fraud.
The right wing attitude is less than fair on seemingly honest people such as yourself, but no one HERE as come close to expressing that...
so i have come to the conclusion that... me thinks tonyevs = andy pipkin. How is old lou??
DavidPayne all hail the mighty suffolk!!
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 09:37
by mrbassie
KOJOE90 wrote:Well I'm just glad my hard earned taxes are going to such a worthy, honest person.
Well if they weren't they'd only be going to help keep teenaged rapists out on the streets anyway.
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 10:02
by TerribleTerry
Andy Mac wrote:Whilst i totally agree that it is wrong for people to collect benefit whilst they are fit like Kieth Jones did, I can understand some of what tonevy is saying. I am indeed off work with BACK problems, and some right wing dickheads on here and in society in general would deny people like me anything other than the most basic existence. I only wish that they could go through this constant pain and not be able to lean over the basin in the mornings to even clean their teeth without it feeling like the osteo-arthritis we've got is stabbing you in the spine. Its not like a poofy toothache that you can get rid of by having it pulled its never ending day and night. However some pricks would have us living in a room with a bare light bulb with no access to a TV, never mind a computer, and probably licking envelopes for tuppence per thousand so that some fat greedy mail order company wanker can buy his fat slag of a wife a new Mercedes.
I think you have mis read my posts Andy if you assume I am either right wing, or that I want to see those who have GENUINE ailments left to rot.
Quite the opposite.
My ire is reserved for those who defraud and steal from the state with bogus disability claims, such as tonyevs and his mate Keith Jones. They steal from those such as yourself, who genuinely deserve and qualify for invalidity assistance and they create a certain level of distrust amongst the general population for those afflicted by a debilitating long term illness.
The problem of fraud of disability allowance is reaching endemic proportions in this country and needs to be stamped out by more stringent medicals and investigations into those cases that warrant it. Therefore the money will go to those who deserve and need it, not lazy chancers who decide to get signed off 'on the sick'
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 10:15
by dondada
Totally agree with Matty and Terry.
Hope your situation improves soon, Andy.
Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 10:23
by jamesmcdonnell
tonyevs wrote:Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Tonyevs - you are full to the brim of excrement. He robbed taxpayers (I certainly am one of them) of nearly 20 grand.
In the few times I've had to try and get benefit, I don't know the system enough to be able to get anything. I was once briefly out of work for a month and apparently entitled to nothing. This is after paying taxes all my working life. As it turned out, I was entitled but you have to know the system to claim for it.
'Grabbing a little back'? You poor, bewildered man.
He wasn't working 'full time legit' was he? He was fraudulently claiming benefit so wasn't legit.
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So you can write crap about other things not just boxing
It sounds like sour grapes because you could not claim, because you admit you gave it a go....your a blatant hypocrit
Like I wrote earlier, the ones who complain the most are the ones who given the chance would grab the most...but can`t...so are jealous
Stick to your webpage of boxing if that makes you feel some how important, but don`t forget who you really are, a nobody writing on a nothing web page

What a twat you are mate.
How is it not legit for Ian to claim if he was out of work? It's perfectly acceptable for anyone who is out of work and not pulling any money in anywhere to claim, so what?
I'd rather give my taxpaying money to an asylum seeker trying to make a better life for themselves, or even an economic migrant who is finding it hard to establish a new life, than a pisstaking bastard who is fighting for a living whilst claiming he is bloody well disabled.
This is inexcusable, if he fights for a living, he is clearly not disabled, and therefore should not have abused the system to get a subsidised car.
Ian was within his rights to claim, this guy is not, and for you to claim otherwise is frankly the act of a pillock.