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williams/ skelton V Valuev Pathetic but probable correct
Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 14:29
by tigerpomfret
now valuev camp have seen just how poor Skelton is,i bet they will give him a title shot,it goes to show what a piece of c**p the Heavyweight scene really is!
Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 14:44
by steve689
Valuev's camp don't just give out title shots Lirva, Skelton will have to earn his chance by impressing the esteemed hierarchy of the WBA enough to warrant his shot at the Heavyweight Championship of the World

Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 16:13
by tigerpomfret
Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 16:19
by jamesmcdonnell
Sauerland can earn far more money with Valuev fighting in America, Skelton represents a very poor value proposition, where is the money going to come from to tempt the big bastard?
Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 16:22
by yiddo14
The talk is of world title shots etc....
But it ain't gonna happen in my opinion,the Skelton win was great for sports network,it means a 3rd match for the 2 British 'greats'......
The world title shot will never come
Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 16:52
by nickd
I really will not tune in for a third fight, Saturdays effort was woeful. Worse than the first fight which was pretty dire.
Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 18:16
by states
After watching Maccarinelli tonight, I say he beats either of our supposed top 2 heavyweights pretty comfortably. Seriously.
Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 18:18
by nickd
I agree, at least he's in decent shape. He'd actually do alright domestically at heavyweight he's certainly got the frame for it and has fougth at heavyweight before.
Posted: 11 Jul 2006, 10:51
by WildWaylon
Big Mac v Big Matt is a great idear are you listening Frank?
Posted: 12 Jul 2006, 04:41
by jamesmcdonnell
I'm sure Macaranelli would love giving away 55 lbs.
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 04:35
by jomothepure
There's talk of Monte Barret being Valuev's opponent in September. Makes sense really. I can't exactly see how overly enthralled America would be watching Valuev against Skelton. Come to think of it I don't know how overly enthralled I would be watching Valuev against Skelton.
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 05:22
by jomothepure
And Williams is Gammer's mandatory
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 05:23
by nickd
jomothepure wrote:And Williams is Gammer's mandatory
Was that before or after the Skelton fight? Gammer beats a 20 stone + Williams easily.
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 05:24
by jomothepure
nickd wrote:jomothepure wrote:And Williams is Gammer's mandatory
Was that before or after the Skelton fight? Gammer beats a 20 stone + Williams easily.
Announced yesterday
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 05:27
by nickd
jomothepure wrote:nickd wrote:jomothepure wrote:And Williams is Gammer's mandatory
Was that before or after the Skelton fight? Gammer beats a 20 stone + Williams easily.
Announced yesterday
Thanks.
Why? Wouldn't surprise me if Williams passed up the chance.
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 05:40
by yiddo14
nickd wrote:jomothepure wrote:And Williams is Gammer's mandatory
Was that before or after the Skelton fight? Gammer beats a 20 stone + Williams easily.
But a 17-19 st Williams DESTROYS Gammer completely.....
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 05:58
by Max Molyneux
If Williams ever gets serious, then a comeback fight against Gammer would be the way to go. Gammer would probably win though now.
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 06:09
by Raff The Frenchman
ok everyone is bitching that Valuev doesnt fight valuable opponents, so, given other champs are already set for a defense and that Valuev wont yet be able to unify titles, WHO according to you all is diserving a title shot at Valuev, and who would be a valuable opponent for valuev today?
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 06:11
by nickd
Williams is never going to get serious, his weight is only going one way and thats up. How he is going to lose all this "muscle" he built to get to 20 stone 8? He certainly doesn't run anywhere.
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 06:27
by jomothepure
Raff The Frenchman wrote:ok everyone is bitching that Valuev doesnt fight valuable opponents, so, given other champs are already set for a defense and that Valuev wont yet be able to unify titles, WHO according to you all is diserving a title shot at Valuev, and who would be a valuable opponent for valuev today?
You have a point. Take away those who are involved in eliminators or other fights and stuff - Ibragimov, Austin, Briggs, Toney, Peter, Virchis, Chagaev, Maskaev, Vidoz.
If, just for an easy example, you then look at boxrec's top 25 (or maybe a little further down too) you're left with 2 types of boxers.
1) Thompson, Minto, Dimitrenko, Chambers Witherspoon. If any of these guys were to fight Valuev, people would ridicule the fight on the basis that they havn't fought anyone decent, don't have enough experience. (And then would the handler's of these guys be willing to put their man in with Valuev anyway?)
2) Then your slightly over-the-hill or ex-champs. Williamson, Ruiz, Brewster (injured though anyway) Byrd, Mesi, McLine. And Barret. Personally I don't think Barret would be that bad in theory, although I really dislike the fact that, if this fight is made, Valuev would be fighting 2 guys who lost their last meaningful fight, and have been pretty innactive.
So whilst their perhaps isn't exactly much in the cupboard to choose from, I'd still say they could do better - Williamson perhaps, who at least has recently destroyed the overhyped Mike Mollo. It's a sad case of finding a guy who won't make you look bad, rather than finding the guy who'll give you the biggest test.
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 06:39
by harrygreb
i have just heard a radio interview with jimmy mac who when questioned about a possible fight with gammer said that danny will be in the shape of his life having been training non stop since the skelton fight in a hot air balloon with his jaws wired up and only drinking the collected sweat from ernie shavers tee-shirts and will knock him out before the fifth.
way to go jim

Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 06:48
by nickd
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 07:39
by Raff The Frenchman
Barett would make a good defense for Valuev, he TKOed Beck, and he was competitive against Rahman...he also lost a very close SD to Mesi when Mesi was at his prime...
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 07:50
by jamesmcdonnell
nickd wrote:Williams is never going to get serious, his weight is only going one way and thats up. How he is going to lose all this "muscle" he built to get to 20 stone 8? He certainly doesn't run anywhere.
He'd probably get a huge bill from Lambeth Council from the council if he went running for destroying the pavements.
Posted: 13 Jul 2006, 08:04
by Max Molyneux
jamesmcdonnell wrote:nickd wrote:Williams is never going to get serious, his weight is only going one way and thats up. How he is going to lose all this "muscle" he built to get to 20 stone 8? He certainly doesn't run anywhere.
He'd probably get a huge bill from Lambeth Council from the council if he went running for destroying the pavements.
They should use a richter scale when he runs.
