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Delaney facing a life sentence
Posted: 27 Jul 2006, 14:00
by kevin
Posted: 27 Jul 2006, 14:08
by yiddo14
Murder??? Surely this can't be right? Facing LIFE for having a fight??
You have a fight,and throw a punch.Unfortunately,a man dies.Surely this is the definition of manslaughter??
I understand he was a pro boxer,and knew what he was doing,and I don't have any idea what happened,but this seem's too strong.
I have a mate who was a pro boxer,he had a fight about 6-7 years ago,punched a guy,knocked him out.The guy landed on a kerb and unfortunately died.My mate got 7 years manslaughter.I thought that was fair,even if a little unlucky.
Of course it's a tragedy,but this incident has now claimed 2 lives.
Shame Delany is'nt an immigrant without a driving license,who had mowed down and killed a 8 yr old boy,then left the scene,he would have only been looking at about 10 months inside...
Posted: 27 Jul 2006, 14:29
by nickd
It says the incident was caught on CCTV, so he must have been bang to rights.
Posted: 28 Jul 2006, 19:58
by josh fg
Got what he deserved. He was a door superviser and a boxer both positions in which he should have been able to show controle. He knew what he was doing and a young man is now dead no matter how much of a drunken tit he was being.
Posted: 29 Jul 2006, 14:06
by liamlion
yiddo14 wrote:Murder??? Surely this can't be right? Facing LIFE for having a fight??
You have a fight,and throw a punch.Unfortunately,a man dies.Surely this is the definition of manslaughter??
No. The difference between murder and involuntary manslaughter is effectively intention ('malice aforethought'). The court found that Delaney (at the least) intended to cause grievous bodily harm (aka really serious harm) to the victim with his act.
This 'malice aforethought' cannot be established in cases of involuntary manslaughter. However, in Delaney's case it was proved beyond reasonable doubt.
Posted: 29 Jul 2006, 19:07
by harrygreb
delaney showed what a thorough plonker he is. he has a young daughter
who now has to communicate with her dad from a prison cell. well done that man
Posted: 29 Jul 2006, 19:09
by harrygreb
and if livingstone cole doesnt take off his blinkers regarding immigration i'll have to give him a clump
Posted: 29 Jul 2006, 23:40
by nicnut
A couple of years back, this twat punched a lad in our hometown. The lad was minding his own biz, when twat bravely attacked from behind and killed him. He got 3 years, fornicate daddy was a mason 18 months later he was free.
Recently two fellas had a scrap, both willing parts, one ends in a coma. The other gets 4 years, serves 3 years.
one in my opinion is murder the other manslaughter. Thankgod for british justice.
Posted: 30 Jul 2006, 11:30
by Kelly young
i had a cousin who was in a pub with his wife and a guy groped his wife
and they had word later on as they both got drunk they challenged each other to fight they went outside had a fight no one won the next day the police came to his house and said the man he had a fight with died through the night some 6 hours later he was charged with murder and he got 8 year for manslaughter so fighting in the street can go badly wrong.
Posted: 30 Jul 2006, 11:38
by liamlion
Its one thing, two lads having a punch-up. But, it is an entirely different thing when a 15 stone bouncer nails a punter with a 'free' shot. The latter is not a fight, but an attack.
Posted: 30 Jul 2006, 11:45
by KOJOE90
Any current or ex-professional fighter who gets a job as a doorman/bouncer really needs to think about this story everyday before he starts work to remember just how dangerous their fists can be.
With great power comes great responsibility.
Boxer from Canada did the same thing
Posted: 30 Jul 2006, 11:53
by Brian Tomas
Canadian Heavyweight Ray Olubuwale did the same thing.
He was working as a doorman of a club,
Hit a drunk and killed the poor bastard.
Ray may have got two years or so .
Seems a life sentance is a tad too harsh.
Posted: 30 Jul 2006, 11:57
by jamesmcdonnell
livingstone cole wrote:harrygreb wrote:and if livingstone cole doesnt take off his blinkers regarding immigration i'll have to give him a clump
Blinkers? Can it you. I don't have blinkers on, I state my opinion and tell you why I feel that way. It's people that moan about immigration that have formed their opinion through either listening to or being that fat former national front bloke who sits in the local boozer, who have no idea about what really goes on. I work with asylum seekers, I have first hand experience of their situation. A tenner says you read the daily star and are convinced that we're about to be 'flooded' with immigrants, it's not true.
And if immigration came into this post because someone said he'd of got 4 months if he'd have been 'an illegal immigrant without a drivers license that ran someone down.....'
How about being one of a group of men that unprokedly stab to death a black teenager at a bus stop because they're a bunch of dirty rascists. What would you get? A police cover up, a date in court and no convictions.
Well said mate. As if our police and judicial system favours immigrants! The Stephen Lawrence debacle shows just how stinking and corrupt our police force and judiciary can be at their worst. I've met a few coppers, some of whom were good mates of a friend of mine, and the phrase institutional racism springs to mind.
Posted: 30 Jul 2006, 14:55
by harrygreb
wow livingstone YOU OWE ME A TENNER i have never even bought a copy of said paper (blinkers again). i am not one who thinks we are about to be over-run by immigrants (blinkers yet again). indeed i do not buy or read any tabloid at all.
my point of view merely comes from a few that have come here from overseas and scammed the system to avail themselves of a very comfortable lifestyle. of course they are the minority but the practice should be stopped. it will not be stopped until the blinkers are removed and the problem is acknowledged.
Posted: 30 Jul 2006, 17:07
by harrygreb
like i said in my original post, i agree with everything you say.
just the tiny details i have a slight problem with.
keep up with your good work in turning around the fortunes of those you work with.