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who did jersey joe walcott call the greatest fighter he ever fought? louis, charles, or marciano? ANSWER? NEITHER



" Yet, Jersey Joe Walcott reserved the highest praise for all of the fighters he every fought for a battler who hailed from Indianapolis, Indiana and Spokane, Washington. The fighter was none other than Tiger Jack Fox. Walcott emphatically told me that he learned more his two fights with Tiger Jack Fox than he did in all of his other fights combined. He further stated that there just wasn't anything that Fox couldn't do in the ring with excellence, move, stick and jab, bob and weave, and hit with power with either hand. He stated and I quote: "I rate Fox higher than Louis, Charles, Marciano, Lee Q. Murray, and all of them."- John A Bardelli from amatoboxing.com


"The great sportsman, Irving Rudd, who wrote The Sporting Life, was a boxing enthusiast and sports press agent who saw many of the great fighters from the 1930's into the decade of the 1990s until his untimely death earlier this year [2000]. His memoirs are filled with stories about King Kong Mathews, Beau Jack Benny the Whoosh, Razor Phil, Jack Trammel, Mushy Jackson, and so many others. He was close to and observed the boxing exploits of Kid Gavilan, Rocky Graziano, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, and Ken Norton. In fact, he promoted major fights for all of them. Rudd eventually became the Director of Publicity for Top Rank Boxing. When interviewed by Red Smith of the New York Times, Smith asked Rudd to name the greatest fighter he ever saw. Without hesitation, Rudd replied: "The greatest fighter I ever saw was Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis was third, and the second greatest was Tiger Jack Fox." - John A Bardelli amato boxing.com


(Rudd attended both tiger jack fox-jersey joe walcott fights)




Tiger ted Lowry was asked who he considered the better fighter Archie Moore or Tiger Jack Fox. Lowry said "I would have to say Fox was better."

(lowry fought tiger jack fox in 45 when fox was far past it and lowry fought moore when archie was near his prime)





tiger jack fox has a great win resume


fox beat heavyweights

6'6 190lb jack trammell- top contender very good fighter
6'0 220lb eddie blunt- top contender very good fighter
6'3 230lb seal harris- joe louis sparring partner. dangerous powerful contender
6'0 200lb brad simmons- beat some good fighers including old jack johnson
5'11 210lb lorenzo pack - huge puncher, the mac foster of his day
6'0 185lb young jersey joe walcott - walcott was solid fighter in the 1930s despite not being peak
6'0 195lb Willie Reddish - dangerous black contender, listons trainer
6'1 200lb yancy henry - dangerous black journeyman of the 1940s
185lb tiger ted lowry- the emanuel agustus of his day, very good journeyman
6'0 185lb al walker- solid black journeyman of his time
6'4 215lb hank hankinson- hankinson was actually a white heavyweight. he was a huge very hard punching fringe contender who was dangerous cause of his size and power
6'1 200lb johnny whitners- 48-6 dangerous fringe black contender of the 1930s


all of these guys(except 1) were dangerous black heavyweights of the 20s,30s, 40s and some of them were very good and avoided. jack trammell, and eddie blunt were top contenders of the 1930s and fox knocked them both out.


tiger jack fox's 175lb light-h resume is exceptional. fox beat lightheavyweights..........


maxie rosenbloom- hall of famer top 20 light-heavyweight of all time
Al Gainer- highly avoided top black contender of the 1930s very good fighter
Larry Johnson- negro light-heavyweight champion
Lou Scouzza- top ranked contender of the 1930s a very good fighter
Bob Olin - former light-h champion, possible top 50 light-h of all time. fox annihlated him in 2 rounds.
lou broullard- middleweight champion during the 1930s. hall of famer
tiger warrington- avoided black light-h contender of the 1930s
fred lenhart- light-h contender of the 1930s, holds over 100 career wins. beat some top light-h of that era.
young herrara- avoided 175lb black contender of the 1930s. fox knocked him out in 1






just in case u guys arnt familiar with some of the more unknown colored 175lb and heavyweights of the 1930s.......here they are

Al Gainer, Billy Jones, Al Walker, Tiger Warrington, Booker Beckwith, Jimmy Mendes, Larry Johnson, Mose Brown, Young Herrera, Tiger Williams, Johnny Whiters, Leo Kelly

"The great sportsman, Irving Rudd,"

Irving Rudd ended up as a shill working for Don King.

Scum goes where the money is.

Rudd was the shortest adult male I have ever seen.

He liked to try to bully fighters who were trying to make a career and might put up with his crap because of their need to get along with the promoter Rudd worked for.

It was pathetic to watch his excitement as he would try this with fighters who could have snapped him in half without effort.

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Tiger Jack Fox lost his chance at the lightheavyweight title

when he showed up for his fight with Melio Bettina with a stab wound in his side.

After a number of rounds the stab wound started bleeding and the fight was stopped.

I don't know if Fox was that great. He certainly could have achieved more with his career than he did, if he didn't enjoy partying as much as he did training. He had his flaws too besides that, notably his hands down defense which made vulnerable to power shots, which he was capable of getting knocked out with, since his chin wasn't granite. He also had problems with boxers.

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tegenm wrote:I don't know if Fox was that great. He certainly could have achieved more with his career than he did, if he didn't enjoy partying as much as he did training. He had his flaws too besides that, notably his hands down defense which made vulnerable to power shots, which he was capable of getting knocked out with, since his chin wasn't granite. He also had problems with boxers.

Sounds like he wasn't very good (in your opinion).

Ali had a hands down defense.

That's why it makes me laugh when idiots say, "Billy Conn did well against Louis for 12 rounds. so that means Ali would."

Conn had THE EXACT OPPOSITE DEFENSE of Ali.

When Conn threw a right hand he kept his left arm-forearm-glove against the side of his face.

When Conn threw a left jab he kept his right arm-forearm-glove against the side of his face.

When Ali threw a right hand his left dangled at his side.

When Ali threw a left jab his right arm hung down at his side.