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Harry Greb or Jack Dempsey? Not sure it close between those 2 for me. Any challengers.

well he's not american so i dont count him.

I pulled my "Galloway" statement......I went back and studied the record and decided perhaps Dempsey was a better fighter after all.

the answer is willie pep. thank you for contributing to this thread

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:the answer is willie pep. thank you for contributing to this thread

Harry Greb is a very legit choice, Benny Leonard another.

BoxBuzz wrote:I pulled my "Galloway" statement......I went back and studied the record and decided perhaps Dempsey was a better fighter after all.

Marginally...

It looks like i won. Dempsey is the best white fighter.

will there ever be another white fighter?

pundit wrote:

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:the answer is willie pep. thank you for contributing to this thread

Harry Greb is a very legit choice, Benny Leonard another.

I'd take Leonard he was a complete fighter.

Tysonfan wrote:Harry Greb or Jack Dempsey? Not sure it close between those 2 for me. Any challengers.

Greb was 30 pounds lighter but dominated Dempsey in sparring.

i was kinda just kidding with the "the answer is willie pep" there is no definte answer.

no but seriousely i do think willie pep is the top choice here followed closely by greb and then leonard

Decagon wrote:Harry Greb, by far.

by far? wut about willie pep?

Ill go with Greb as well. Top 5 P4P for beating all the hall of famers he did.
The best white fighter I have seen on film was Billy Conn. My opinion.

Willie Pep was JEWISH...he wasn't white. So he falls out of the "best white fighter" category.

My personal opinion, the best white fighter, in any weight class, was probably Jimmy Wylde, of England, who was one of the greatest KO artists of all time. When he was a young kid in his native Wales, he used to fight exhibitions with grown men twice his size and knocked them all out.

One time Wylde was under major testing, to see where he got his great power from, and to the surprise of the 'experts' it wasn't by brute strength, but was by Wylde's percision and timing, as well as the quickness and accuracy of his punches.

pundit wrote:

Tysonfan wrote:Harry Greb or Jack Dempsey? Not sure it close between those 2 for me. Any challengers.

Greb was 30 pounds lighter but dominated Dempsey in sparring.

key word: SPARRING


dempsey would kill 160lb greb in a real fight

The best white fighter I have seen on film was Billy Conn.

im guessing u never seen willie pep on film expug. conn was one of the best, but willie was the best!

Ive seen Willie.
I liked Conns style. Great combos ,decent puncher, helluva fighter.

IrishRufusMurphy wrote:Willie Pep was JEWISH...he wasn't white. So he falls out of the "best white fighter" category.

Ha?
And you are purple?

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:

pundit wrote:

Tysonfan wrote:Harry Greb or Jack Dempsey? Not sure it close between those 2 for me. Any challengers.

Greb was 30 pounds lighter but dominated Dempsey in sparring.

key word: SPARRING


dempsey would kill 160lb greb in a real fight

would would.....oh would would.... would..... oh yeah would....

but never did......instead Kearns (Dempsey's manager) refused to make the fight......

pundit wrote:

IrishRufusMurphy wrote:Willie Pep was JEWISH...he wasn't white. So he falls out of the "best white fighter" category.

Ha?
And you are purple?

Guiglermo Papaleo dont sound Jewish to me.

Wales is in the British Empire is it not? Welsh/English same difference to me.

And my apologies lol...I wasn't thinking right, Pep was Italian, never mind, I was thinking of some other boxer who was Jewish lol

Best "white" fighters in my opinion are these top 5:

1.) Willie Pep
2.) Harry Greb
3.) Jimmy Wilde
4.) Gene Tunney
5.) Bob Fitzsimmons

IrishRufusMurphy wrote: And my apologies lol...I wasn't thinking right, Pep was Italian, never mind, I was thinking of some other boxer who was Jewish lol

So again, what is a jewish fighter (like Benny Leonard) if not white.

Decagon wrote:Pep's opposition wasn't in the same league as Greb's. What if Willie Pep had been black and Pernell Whitaker'd been white. How would history view the two of them?

not as roughly equal dancers at any rate.

really no white fighter(or perhaps any fighter) looks better on film than a peak willie pep. he looked like he glided through air, the best footwork i have ever seen

pundit,

funny how u never mention ur boy harry wills refusing to fight great tommy gibbons. the same gibbons who lost 12 out of 15 rounds vs dempsey. the same gibbons who tunney ducked and waited till gibbons was washed up badly in 1925!


of course i think wills would have beaten gibbons!

Benny Leonard is the greatest Jewish boxer. Represent!