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Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Read about this, I favour Hatton - much faster, younger, better footwork, higher workrate, naturally bigger, been in less wars, and his conditioning/nutrition programme gives him a strength edge. Speed will be Hattons biggest asset.

Areas Castillo may be better on defense, experience, timing, and a slight edge on power (maybe)

Castillos success has been partly down to him outweighing opponents by 10-15lbs. He won't have that on Hatton.

Could be a great fight.

silkov wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Read about this, I favour Hatton - much faster, younger, better footwork, higher workrate, naturally bigger, been in less wars, and his conditioning/nutrition programme gives him a strength edge. Speed will be Hattons biggest asset.

Areas Castillo may be better on defense, experience, timing, and a slight edge on power (maybe)

Castillos success has been partly down to him outweighing opponents by 10-15lbs. He won't have that on Hatton.

Could be a great fight.

By his conditioning proggram do you mean his blowing up to 14 stone between fights???.... some conditioning that is.... 8)

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

silkov wrote:

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Read about this, I favour Hatton - much faster, younger, better footwork, higher workrate, naturally bigger, been in less wars, and his conditioning/nutrition programme gives him a strength edge. Speed will be Hattons biggest asset.

Areas Castillo may be better on defense, experience, timing, and a slight edge on power (maybe)

Castillos success has been partly down to him outweighing opponents by 10-15lbs. He won't have that on Hatton.

Could be a great fight.

PN, watch his 2nd fight with the outstanding Stevie Johnston. Close to 2000 punches thrown. Classic fight, I don't know why more ppl don't talk about that one.


By his conditioning proggram do you mean his blowing up to 14 stone between fights???.... some conditioning that is.... 8)

Who throws more power punches per 12rounds than Hatton? Who works out as intensely, has as much energy, does 15round bodybag sesisons?? Not Jose 'I pig out on tacos 3 days before fighting Corrales' Castillo thats for sure. Hatton has also never failed to make weight.

I'm a known Hatton hater but I give props where they're due

Terence wrote:

silkov wrote:If Hatton turned up against Castillo in the form of his past 2 fights then I think he would be in a lot of trouble.... Castillos fought a higher calibre of opposition and is the more proven warrior, as for him being rusty Hatton has hardly been overactive and if anything the lay off will do Castillo good after his recent wars... Hatton is the one who is missing sharpness from being less active....

I agree that it would be a great fight and this is the sort of fight Hatton should be aiming for... lets get it on for christssakes!...

One guy blows up between fights and works his weight down, the other guy blows up between fights and tries to pull a fast one at the weigh-in. If the Castillo who turned up for his last fight shows his face, well there will be no fight. Just controversy and apologetic fans.
'Nutritional is right, blowing up between fights isn't ideal but you have one guy who actually honours his contract and respects his contract and the other who guy is incapable of doing either. One guy who makes the weight and sets a pace and another guy who fails to make weight and sulks like a girl who misses her prom because she is too fat to fit in her, optimisticall small, dress. This is the same Castillo who boasted about eating Taco's and drinking beer when he should have been getting his weight down versus Corrales.

If the fight is made it will be a fine fight but Arum needs to assure the Hatton camp his fighter will actually try to make the weight.

Any lay-off is the fault of Castillo.

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:But Maussa do fighters really get faster and have a higher workrate as they go up in weight. Lets look at other weight drainers:

Morales - slowed down as he went up
DLH - work rate and stamina dropped

I doubt at this advanced age going up in weight will give Castillos style any kind of injection.

Terence wrote:

silkov wrote:If Hatton turned up against Castillo in the form of his past 2 fights then I think he would be in a lot of trouble.... Castillos fought a higher calibre of opposition and is the more proven warrior, as for him being rusty Hatton has hardly been overactive and if anything the lay off will do Castillo good after his recent wars... Hatton is the one who is missing sharpness from being less active....

I agree that it would be a great fight and this is the sort of fight Hatton should be aiming for... lets get it on for christssakes!...

One guy blows up between fights and works his weight down, the other guy blows up between fights and tries to pull a fast one at the weigh-in. If the Castillo who turned up for his last fight shows his face, well there will be no fight. Just controversy and apologetic fans.

'Nutritional is right, blowing up between fights isn't ideal but you have one guy who actually honours his contract and respects his contract and the other who guy is incapable of doing either. One guy who makes the weight and sets a pace and another guy who fails to make weight and sulks like a girl who misses her prom because she is too fat to fit in her, optimisticall small, dress. This is the same Castillo who boasted about eating Taco's and drinking beer when he should have been getting his weight down versus Corrales.

If the fight is made it will be a fine fight but Arum needs to assure the Hatton camp his fighter will actually try to make the weight.

Any lay-off is the fault of Castillo.

Terence wrote:

silkov wrote:

Terence wrote: One guy blows up between fights and works his weight down, the other guy blows up between fights and tries to pull a fast one at the weigh-in. If the Castillo who turned up for his last fight shows his face, well there will be no fight. Just controversy and apologetic fans.

'Nutritional is right, blowing up between fights isn't ideal but you have one guy who actually honours his contract and respects his contract and the other who guy is incapable of doing either. One guy who makes the weight and sets a pace and another guy who fails to make weight and sulks like a girl who misses her prom because she is too fat to fit in her, optimisticall small, dress. This is the same Castillo who boasted about eating Taco's and drinking beer when he should have been getting his weight down versus Corrales.

If the fight is made it will be a fine fight but Arum needs to assure the Hatton camp his fighter will actually try to make the weight.

Any lay-off is the fault of Castillo.

Just because Hatton makes the weight doesnt mean he isnt damaging his body and career with his constant weight loss between fights... 90% of his training is geared towards making the weight rather than improving himself as a fighter and its starting to show in the ring... or havent you seen his last two fights...
As for Castillo he was hardly fat when he failed to make the weight... he'd not be fighting Ricky at 135 either...

Hmm. I assume Castillo was fat when he started the weight shedding process, otherwise his inability to make the weight, plus his skeletal frame, is puzzling? Was he wildly overweight when camped opened? Or is his weight permanently at Belsen levels?

I saw the last two Hatton fights, plus the preparation for Collazo, and he wasn't hanging onto a few lbs in the final weeks in order to pull a fast one. Both men go into camp heavy but one man (Hatton) makes the weight in good time, one man has twice failed to make the weight, or have you missed the past two Castillo-Corrales weigh-ins.

Could the struggle at welterweight have anything to do with facing a big, strong, southpaw? These type of fights might be easy on paper but then fights are not fought on paper, they are fought on canvas

Terence wrote:

silkov wrote:

Terence wrote: Hmm. I assume Castillo was fat when he started the weight shedding process, otherwise his inability to make the weight, plus his skeletal frame, is puzzling? Was he wildly overweight when camped opened? Or is his weight permanently at Belsen levels?

I saw the last two Hatton fights, plus the preparation for Collazo, and he wasn't hanging onto a few lbs in the final weeks in order to pull a fast one. Both men go into camp heavy but one man (Hatton) makes the weight in good time, one man has twice failed to make the weight, or have you missed the past two Castillo-Corrales weigh-ins.

Could the struggle at welterweight have anything to do with facing a big, strong, southpaw? These type of fights might be easy on paper but then fights are not fought on paper, they are fought on canvas

Well Corrales cheated in the first fight so whats good for the goose... as the saying goes... I've seen Castillo fighting at 150 and he hardly had an ounce of flesh on him then... I doubt Castillo ever gets to the blimp like proportions of Fatton, I mean Hatton!... he's got a naturally much bigger frame and may well be looking to take Ricky on at 147... which would be a mistake for Hatton as he is sharper at 140 and should stick to that weight... but can he get all the flab off and make 140 anymore???....

Cheating is a premeditated action, I tried to teach you this before

Castillo does blow-up between fights, as does Hatton. You could say Ricky is blimp-like but what will Castillo be like after a long lay-off? Nacho fat-boy.

Personally I prefer Ricky at 147, it is a case of pragmatics, there are no real fights at the lower weight. If he can 100% make Castillo at that weight for a title then fair enough, if not he should stay at 147 and grow into the weight. Unless he takes on Margarito he has faced the biggest man he will face at the weight, plus Collazo's stance and gait increases this advantage. I prefer Ricky at 147 from now until he retires, there is a greater legacy to be built at 147, but yes, he can make 140lb without any problems. He trains really hard.