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Whats he like as a fighter?

Ain't seen him at all but British posters on ESB are favouring him to beat Scott Dann.

Does he live up to his The Secret alias too?

Williams is a good all round fighter, but has had a career interupted by illness and injurys. At times he has looked world class other times has looked flat and disappointing.

The Williams of a few years ago I would pick to beat todays Dann, but now I'm not so sure.

Williams comes across as a really nice guy, maybe too nice for a fighter?

One of those fighters that seems to have all the moves etc but just has that 'something' missing.

Williams has nice skills, but lacks that inner fire that pushes good boxers to become great. He's a decent fighter, and he seems like a really nice guy, but we saw what level he's at when he came up against a truly world class operator in Sergio Martinez.

glahn wrote:Williams has nice skills, but lacks that inner fire that pushes good boxers to become great. He's a decent fighter, and he seems like a really nice guy, but we saw what level he's at when he came up against a truly world class operator in Sergio Martinez.

Very true - but I don't think Dann is a Martinez.

Two/Three years ago I wouldn't have hesitated - now though its hard to call cause its difficult to know how much Williams has left.

Max Molyneux wrote:Whats he like as a fighter?

Ain't seen him at all but British posters on ESB are favouring him to beat Scott Dann.

Does he live up to his The Secret alias too?

Maxie

If you want to see Williams at his best get a copy of his 2001 fight with Tony Badea.

stujones wrote:

glahn wrote:Williams has nice skills, but lacks that inner fire that pushes good boxers to become great. He's a decent fighter, and he seems like a really nice guy, but we saw what level he's at when he came up against a truly world class operator in Sergio Martinez.

Very true - but I don't think Dann is a Martinez.

Two/Three years ago I wouldn't have hesitated - now though its hard to call cause its difficult to know how much Williams has left.

True - I think Williams has a good chance against Dann and it should be a very good fight. I'd give Dann the edge just because of his extra strength and power but it'll be close.

Richard Williams.

One of the UK best fighters.

Ran into a top quality fighter in Sergio Martinez.

Middleweight is much better for RW than Light Middle due to his Natural size.

I think he stops Dann whose chin is less than Stellar.

Poor Matchmaking ( Martinez was 44-0 as an amateur and only lost to Margarito and was KNOWN to be not worth the risk for the top guys so why did Hearn bring him over????? ) and fights falling through ( SKY TV Money ) may have blunted RW but the last messaage I got from him he said he was 'itching to fight'


He will be ready and I think he stops Dann mid to late.


Closer fight now than it was 3 years ago - but Dann never was THAT good and RW is the better skilled.

He can Punch and is fit and busy but Richard beats him.

Watch Williams Vs Samuels 2.


This fight will be just like that.

When is this fight supposed to be happening?

Last i heard Dann had been in a bad car crash and it was unclear whether he'd ever be able to fight again.

Williams wastes Dann imo. Dann is strong and can punch, but is also chinny and technically limited. He's made for Williams who after his customary slow start will dismantle Dann and stop him.

From what I've been reading Danns back problems may stop this fight from happening.

KOJOE90 wrote:From what I've been reading Danns back problems may stop this fight from happening.

Oh so it isn't set for sure then.

Williams shouldn't wait on Dann. He needs to stay active and carry on with his career regardless. If Dann can't fight or there is a doubt about when then they should have Williams fight somebody else in the interim with the winner to fight Dann next if he can fight again. Or maybe Williams should aim for another title of some description? Anything to keep his career moving. These spells of inactivity are what has hindered his career all along.
Such a shame the way that Williams career has panned out. He looked sensational beating Badea and Taylor, and the way he took apart Paul Samuelks intheir return was superb. Richard was a real classy boxer, with slick old school skills. Kind of reminded me of Toney or McCallum. I was expecting big things from him and really felt that he could mix it on the big stage, but it never really happened for him. Id like to see him get back on track and make one final push, but he has to stay busy.

i was ringside for williams samuels 2 sams was giving rw a tough fight even a boxing lesson at times until he got caught.
RW is a top man but is sadly now not going anywhere fast

Wasn't the first Williams-Samuels fight stopped on a bad cut? I seem to remember on the slow motion replay watching a huge blood bubble flying from Williams eye.

never saw it on the tv

never saw it on the tv

never saw it on the box but i dont really think too many people thought richard would ever make it beyond domestic level

harrygreb wrote:never saw it on the box but i dont really think too many people thought richard would ever make it beyond domestic level

Well - you were not speaking to the PEOPLE the rest of us spoke to.


RW was coming along nicely..

I remember watching him for the first time in the 1995 London ABA final having a real tear-up with Wayne Alexander. He won that, but faded away. Had a few pro fights before getting beaten by Michael Alexander. Faded away again, then sudeenly in 2000/2001 burst right back winning the Commonwealth 154lbs title. A real talent - beautiful to watch at times, but Martinez got the better of him unfortunately.

Can he beat Dann? I hope so, but may have faded a bit. However, he looked nice and sharp in his last fight.

all these guys are domestic level fighters. richard indeed looked good on occasions but a world class performer that does not make. no one i knew ever thought he was going to set the world alight but we all thought he had a little something worth watching, if you think different i'm willing to listen for a minute or two

I thought the Williams was a European level fighter who might have done okay vs Santos who was (at the time) adjusting to the weight increase.

Never thought he would have beaten the likes of Verno Phillips, Bronco McKart etc - let alone DLH, Winky and Vargas.

The rest I think were domestic level, and its a crying shame they never fought each other. I think had we found out the winner of a little tournament (which I think it would have been Williams) then maybe a call out with one of the top guys in the devision wouldn't have looked so foolish.

Hatton/Witter and Brodie/Oliver/even Pat Mullings - definately looked like world championship material - so I am glad they never fought (with the exception of Oliver vs Mullings) before one of them achieved world title status. Although obviously we need to see Hatton vs Witter now, and in hindsight it would have been very nice to see Oliver vs Brodie.

There were great fights to be made at 154 and none of them got made when they were hot. The only one that ended up happening was Alexander v Takaloo and we got a hell of a KO there.

You can't help but wonder what might have happened if Williams had stayed fit and Alexander's career had been promoted better. Lets be honest Warren is doing a piss poor job with Alexander he is a very marketable fighter and is barely fighting these days.

nickd wrote:There were great fights to be made at 154 and none of them got made when they were hot. The only one that ended up happening was Alexander v Takaloo and we got a hell of a KO there.

You can't help but wonder what might have happened if Williams had stayed fit and Alexander's career had been promoted better. Lets be honest Warren is doing a piss poor job with Alexander he is a very marketable fighter and is barely fighting these days.

Well we did have a few more than that - Farnell vs Tak, Samuels vs Williams, Samuels vs Alexander, Dixon vs Tak - but that was about it.

I'm a little worried that David Haye could follow Wayne Alexander - it seemed the Wayne was pretty clueless if he couldn't take the fighter out and despite the great early KO's if the man was durable he was awful to watch. I've pretty much been asleep during Wayne's more recent TV fights (vs McDonnagh and vs Christian Bladt) and he was a dissapointment when "headlining" that big (possibly US televised) york hall bill where Johnny Tapia made his UK debut.

stujones wrote:

nickd wrote:There were great fights to be made at 154 and none of them got made when they were hot. The only one that ended up happening was Alexander v Takaloo and we got a hell of a KO there.

You can't help but wonder what might have happened if Williams had stayed fit and Alexander's career had been promoted better. Lets be honest Warren is doing a piss poor job with Alexander he is a very marketable fighter and is barely fighting these days.

Well we did have a few more than that - Farnell vs Tak, Samuels vs Williams, Samuels vs Alexander, Dixon vs Tak - but that was about it.

I'm a little worried that David Haye could follow Wayne Alexander - it seemed the Wayne was pretty clueless if he couldn't take the fighter out and despite the great early KO's if the man was durable he was awful to watch. I've pretty much been asleep during Wayne's more recent TV fights (vs McDonnagh and vs Christian Bladt) and he was a dissapointment when "headlining" that big (possibly US televised) york hall bill where Johnny Tapia made his UK debut.

Alexander v Williams was the one most wanted to see and a rematch of their ABA final. Would have been a terrific fight in the pro's.

nickd wrote:

stujones wrote:

nickd wrote:There were great fights to be made at 154 and none of them got made when they were hot. The only one that ended up happening was Alexander v Takaloo and we got a hell of a KO there.

You can't help but wonder what might have happened if Williams had stayed fit and Alexander's career had been promoted better. Lets be honest Warren is doing a piss poor job with Alexander he is a very marketable fighter and is barely fighting these days.

Well we did have a few more than that - Farnell vs Tak, Samuels vs Williams, Samuels vs Alexander, Dixon vs Tak - but that was about it.

I'm a little worried that David Haye could follow Wayne Alexander - it seemed the Wayne was pretty clueless if he couldn't take the fighter out and despite the great early KO's if the man was durable he was awful to watch. I've pretty much been asleep during Wayne's more recent TV fights (vs McDonnagh and vs Christian Bladt) and he was a dissapointment when "headlining" that big (possibly US televised) york hall bill where Johnny Tapia made his UK debut.

Alexander v Williams was the one most wanted to see and a rematch of their ABA final. Would have been a terrific fight in the pro's.

Remember when Alexander was offered Eastman for £100k?.

Turned it down!


Richard Williams would have taken that fight!


Good to see there is a chance RW and HE might fight!