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Where Are They Now?
Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 13:27
by KOJOE90
Anyone now what these former top domestic fighters are up to these days?
Adrian Dodson.
Promising and talented fighter who seemed to be going well untill running into Winky Wright. He reminds me a little of Richard Williams in that he seemed to have all the moves but just 'lacked something'.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=17082
Robert Dickie
I remember watching him fight a few times on ITV many years ago. I also seem to recall he broke his back in an accident but came back to win a British Title. Didn't he fall out with his manager because he was always playing rugby?
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=37895
Gordon Ferris
The forgotten British Heavyweight Champion. I never saw him fight and know little about him so any input very welcome.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=022461

Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 14:06
by stujones
Adrian Dodson has done a few "Herbie Hide's" on occasions - appear in the schedules only to pull out (or for the show to be cancelled). So not sure if he has retired.
Unlike Richard Williams, Dodson did have stamina problems and was fragile psychologically (and a bit physically).
Any one know what happend to Floyd Havard - he was scheduled to return, but was always about a stone overweight at the weigh in and his fights (think it happend on more than one occasion) was cancelled.
Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 14:08
by glahn
Is Eric Teymour officially retired?
Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 14:09
by nickd
I read recently that Teymour was sparring with Kessler in preperation for Beyer. So I don't think he's retired.
Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 15:01
by knockout
Erik isnt retired, he had some problems with the BBBC over his licence.
This is all resolved now...
trouble is that now he is too good for most people so getting him fights is very hard...
Opponents want crazy money and without a heavyweight promoter to back him he is suffering...
Like Nick says, he is in Denmark sparring Kessler as we speak (along with former Eastman opponent Tatevosyan) he also helped Mario Veit to prepare for his upset victory over Brahmer.
Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 15:04
by stujones
knockout wrote:Erik isnt retired, he had some problems with the BBBC over his licence.
This is all resolved now...
trouble is that now he is too good for most people so getting him fights is very hard...
Opponents want crazy money and without a heavyweight promoter to back him he is suffering...
When is he eligable to fight for the British title? I would look at advicing him to go for that route. I cannot see Froch holding on to the title much longer and for me Eric would be right up there in the British ratings. He doesn't need a heavyweight promoter to get him a mandatory shot at the British title.
Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 15:06
by nickd
Aren't any of the bigger promoters interested in him? He is more that useful!
Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 15:27
by KO Artist
knockout wrote:Erik isnt retired, he had some problems with the BBBC over his licence.
This is all resolved now...
trouble is that now he is too good for most people so getting him fights is very hard...
Opponents want crazy money and without a heavyweight promoter to back him he is suffering...
Like Nick says, he is in Denmark sparring Kessler as we speak (along with former Eastman opponent Tatevosyan) he also helped Mario Veit to prepare for his upset victory over Brahmer.
Hasnt Teymour got Hepititis?
Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 17:42
by Old bones Ian
Peter Obah? Robert Norton? Patrick J Maxwell?
Re: Where Are They Now?
Posted: 06 Sep 2006, 18:34
by lamphey
KOJOE90 wrote:Anyone now what these former top domestic fighters are up to these days?
Gordon Ferris
The forgotten British Heavyweight Champion. I never saw him fight and know little about him so any input very welcome.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=022461

I think he runs a pub in Gloucester now.
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 17:34
by rod riddle
Robert Dickie
I remember watching him fight a few times on ITV many years ago. I also seem to recall he broke his back in an accident but came back to win a British Title. Didn't he fall out with his manager because he was always playing rugby?
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=37895
That's a nostalgia trip for me. The first boxing ticket I got was him versus Kamel Bou Ali in Kings Hall, Stoke. He got stopped (on a cut I think??) and some guy in front of me went ape and threw a chair into the judges. I got back home in time to watch it delayed on Fight Night - What a programme!
Dickie did break his back - he crashed his white Escort XR3 as I remember from the tv reports back then. Don't know what happened to him since though. [/quote]
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 18:01
by Freiheit
knockout wrote:Erik isnt retired, he had some problems with the BBBC over his licence.
This is all resolved now...
trouble is that now he is too good for most people so getting him fights is very hard...
Opponents want crazy money and without a heavyweight promoter to back him he is suffering...
Like Nick says, he is in Denmark sparring Kessler as we speak (along with former Eastman opponent Tatevosyan) he also helped Mario Veit to prepare for his upset victory over Brahmer.
Pictures from the sparring:
http://www.teampalle.dk/composite-1242.htm
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 18:06
by stujones
rod riddle wrote:Robert Dickie
I remember watching him fight a few times on ITV many years ago. I also seem to recall he broke his back in an accident but came back to win a British Title. Didn't he fall out with his manager because he was always playing rugby?
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=37895
That's a nostalgia trip for me. The first boxing ticket I got was him versus Kamel Bou Ali in Kings Hall, Stoke. He got stopped (on a cut I think??) and some guy in front of me went ape and threw a chair into the judges. I got back home in time to watch it delayed on Fight Night - What a programme!
Dickie did break his back - he crashed his white Escort XR3 as I remember from the tv reports back then. Don't know what happened to him since though.
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Good boxer was Robert, I also remember something about him being stripped of the British title (cannot remember if it was the featherweight or super featherweight) due to a broken hand (or thumb).
If I remember rightly his fights vs Gun and Ali was for the WBC International title - one of the first times I can remember a junior belt being on the line.
Edit: Just checking and it seems like Boxrec don't credit Dickie with the title - but credit Gun (who Dickie beat) and Ali (who beat Dickie) as champions. Its quite clear that Dickie was a champion in between the two, so I hope he will get the credit.
Posted: 07 Sep 2006, 18:41
by glahn
I hope Teymour gets everything sorted out. He's a very decent fighter who is at least good enough to win a European belt.
Posted: 08 Sep 2006, 15:06
by KOJOE90
stujones wrote:If I remember rightly his fights vs Gun and Ali was for the WBC International title - one of the first times I can remember a junior belt being on the line.
Stu, I to remember very clearly Dickie going for an WBC International Title, I just can'r recall the opponent and your right Boxrec does not list this (yet).
Posted: 08 Sep 2006, 16:18
by kevin
Gun was for the WBC international title, as far as I know. Did Dickie really box for the scottish title?
Kev
Posted: 08 Sep 2006, 18:41
by stujones
kevin wrote:Gun was for the WBC international title, as far as I know. Did Dickie really box for the scottish title?
Kev
Yes definately Gun for the WBC international title, its on fight night volume 4.
Not sure about your question though.
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 09:45
by KOJOE90
mercman wrote:The forgotten British Heavyweight Champion. I never saw him fight
I didn't see much of him but I do remember Gordon Ferris losing to Neville Meade in a British Title fight. It was a dramatic KO with Ferris getting properly spaked out by the big hitting Meade.
Anyone got a copy of this or other Meade, Ferris fights?
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 10:37
by welshboy1972
Robert Dickie was the very first boxer to box for a wbc international title at any weight !
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 10:48
by stujones
welshboy1972 wrote:Robert Dickie was the very first boxer to box for a wbc international title at any weight !
First British or first full stop, cause I thought he was a challenger to Gun.
I definately remember it being quite a big thing and Newbon etc making an issue that this isn't a world title.
I think the international/intercontinental belts had some meaning if it continued its original idea. Fighters from 11-20 to fight for it, winner would get a top 10 ranking and eventually a mandatory challenge if he continued to defend it.
Unfortunately now its gone by the by now Mr TBA and Mr A Bum can challenge for it vs the prospect.
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 12:34
by KOJOE90
Anyone know what Henry Wharton is doing these days?
Posted: 09 Sep 2006, 12:58
by Neri
Have to add one myself:
Anyone know what Shea Neary is up to now?
Posted: 10 Sep 2006, 08:56
by knockout
KO Artist wrote:knockout wrote:Erik isnt retired, he had some problems with the BBBC over his licence.
This is all resolved now...
trouble is that now he is too good for most people so getting him fights is very hard...
Opponents want crazy money and without a heavyweight promoter to back him he is suffering...
Like Nick says, he is in Denmark sparring Kessler as we speak (along with former Eastman opponent Tatevosyan) he also helped Mario Veit to prepare for his upset victory over Brahmer.
Hasnt Teymour got Hepititis?
he had some blood disorder which a specialist in the field proved was not contagious and no risk to an opponent so he got his licence back.
Stu: the British title route is one he is considering, I think he is eligible next year
Posted: 11 Sep 2006, 09:16
by Deram
Personally I remember a black fighter called "Hobson". I am not sure but I would think he was a welter, light middle or there about from the fights I saw back then.
Last time I saw him fighting was in 89-90 or so. I remember than everyone was very impressed witrh his skill and speed.
Then I forgot about him and his fights were not aired any longer.... He seemed to be a huge star waiting to happen... only to disappear.
Posted: 11 Sep 2006, 09:41
by Coconut
welshboy1972 wrote:Robert Dickie was the very first boxer to box for a wbc international title at any weight !
Presumably somebody else also shares that claim?