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Andrew Golota deserves respect
Posted: 12 Sep 2006, 19:10
by pundit
Boy did he beat up Riddick Bowe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADrvQjCPqjM
Without a doubt a top 10 heavyweight of the 1990s.
Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 01:51
by generic screen name
Cool laughing monkey Decagon.
Golota deserves no respect. He was destroying Bowe TWICE before he blew it w/low blows. He also got his ass handed to him by Brewster, Lewis, and quitting against Grant and Tyson. He had several chances, and crapped on them.
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Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 05:12
by barry
>>>Golota deserves no respect. He was destroying Bowe TWICE before he blew it w/low blows.<<<
Exactly....and though we like to talk about how Vitali quit, which he certainly did...Golota was the King of Quit!
I was very impressed with Golota when he beat Samson Po'ouha as he took probably the hardest shots he ever took and withstood it, although he bit a chunk out of Po'uha's shoulder...Golota showed no respect for the game and as such he deserves none.
Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 07:23
by Nels
Ah, Andrzej! Complete nutter. And for the record, no he didn't deserve any respect. He was a guy with great skills and a hell of a (steroid-addled?) physique, and every single fight the going got tough, he quit or got himself disqualified.
However, if anyone wants to see my candidate for the "Most Blatant Foul In The History of Pro Boxing", then kindly refer to his fight with Donnell Nicholson, on the "Night of the Young Heavies" card.
About round 6, I believe; if you were training a guy to deliver a perfect headbutt, then you could show them this over and over again. I really recommend buying a tape, the headbutt is just so perfectly delivered man it'll make you cry. Come to think of it, wasn't Andrzej getting his arse kicked in that one too, before nutting Nicholson to the canvas?
Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 09:24
by silkov
Every fighter deserves respect... some people, ususally ones who havent even got in a ring, seem to forget that. Having said that Golota was a nutter in the truest sense of the word, thank god he never fought Tyson, it would have been decided by two eaten ears to one busted nut!...
Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 09:30
by pundit
Golota was never the same after the Lewis loss. So I don't count the Brewster and Grant losses.
Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 09:33
by Seamus
Andrew Golota should keep chasing that elusive heavyweight title, WHY, because we've got a titlist now who came back from being KO'd by pudgey Kirk Johnson, obese Corey Sanders, and very average Lance Whitaker. Oleg Maskaev has lowered the bar for all. Course I hate to think what that says about Hasim Rahman.
Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 09:35
by pundit
Big effort for yet another unqualified post.
Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 09:49
by The Great John L
pundit wrote:generic screen name wrote:Cool laughing monkey Decagon.
Golota deserves no respect. He was destroying Bowe TWICE before he blew it w/low blows. He also got his ass handed to him by Brewster, Lewis, and quitting against Grant and Tyson. He had several chances, and crapped on them.
Golota was never the same after the Lewis loss. So I don't count the Brewer and Grant losses.
But against Bowe, he proved twice that he had top notch potential.
He showed good skills, but “top notch potential”? You’re standards must be a bit lower than mine. I think what Andy showed against Bowe was a top notch ability to lose despite being clearly superior to his opponent. Remember, despite beating the piss out of Bowe, he found a really nifty way to quit in both fights. Especially the second fight. Way ahead on points, having just been warned again for low blows, he cranked up and landed three great shots to the nuts right in front of the ref. What statement do you think he was trying to make with that combination?
Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 09:55
by pundit
The Great John L wrote:pundit wrote:generic screen name wrote:Cool laughing monkey Decagon.
Golota deserves no respect. He was destroying Bowe TWICE before he blew it w/low blows. He also got his ass handed to him by Brewster, Lewis, and quitting against Grant and Tyson. He had several chances, and crapped on them.
Golota was never the same after the Lewis loss. So I don't count the Brewer and Grant losses.
But against Bowe, he proved twice that he had top notch potential.
He showed good skills, but “top notch potential”? You’re standards must be a bit lower than mine. I think what Andy showed against Bowe was a top notch ability to lose despite being clearly superior to his opponent.
Seems to be more an issue of words than of standards -- someone who is clearly superior to a top 3 heavyweight shows top-notch potential, doesn't he?
Capitalizing on this potential is a different matter -- Golota never did that, of course.
Posted: 13 Sep 2006, 15:10
by silkov
Decagon wrote:silkov wrote:Every fighter deserves respect... some people, ususally ones who havent even got in a ring, seem to forget that. Having said that Golota was a nutter in the truest sense of the word,
thank god he never fought Tyson, it would have been decided by two eaten ears to one busted nut!...
Then explain this picture:
http://brevheart.tripod.com/_1121156_tyson300.jpg
Do you two have a break with reality every time an Eastern European heavyweight is mentioned?
Golota wasnt really there for that fight!... thats obviously what I meant!...
Posted: 14 Sep 2006, 02:28
by generic screen name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuR7zFMmdZc
nuff said
Imagine if he fought Holyfield...............
Posted: 14 Sep 2006, 05:51
by silkov
You're so dense man!... 8)
Posted: 14 Sep 2006, 10:02
by pundit
Decagon wrote:Is Michael Grant one of the 10 greatest heavyweights of the 1990s? He did knock out the great Andrew Golota.
Trash-man makes another unqualified post.
Posted: 14 Sep 2006, 12:02
by pundit
pundit wrote:
Golota was never the same after the Lewis loss. So I don't count the Brewster and Grant losses.
Unqualified posters normally fail to grasp why their posts are unqualified.
Re: Andrew Golota
Posted: 14 Sep 2006, 12:59
by Chuck1052
Andrew Golota had quite a bit of talent, but his mental
makeup is his downfall.
- Chuck Johnston
Posted: 14 Sep 2006, 13:57
by Ambling Alp
A agree with Chuck. At times Golota showed that he had some ability. He did beat some of the fringe contenders.
However, there was something mentally/psyhcologically wrong with him.
As mentioned, he bit one opponent, and headbutted Nicholson for absolutely no reason.
He fought very well against Bowe twice and blew it both times.
He didn't show up ready to fight at all against Lewis.
Against Grant, he could have won but quit instead. (Grant was knocked down a couple of times and didn't quit).
To be fair he did have some bad luck in with the judges against Byrd and Ruiz.
He could have had a much better career than he did, and most of it was his own fault.
Re: Andrew Golota
Posted: 14 Sep 2006, 14:08
by pundit
Chuck1052 wrote:Andrew Golota had quite a bit of talent, but his mental
makeup is his downfall.
- Chuck Johnston
Oh there's no doubt about this.
Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 08:07
by BoxBuzz
Golata was perhaps the best "no hope" contender there ever was.
You could have just put him in the ring by himself for the title.....My guess is that he still would have found some way to lose.
Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 13:24
by Seamus
Golota doesn't deserve respect, but he should make a final effort to win one of those heavyweight belts, and that's not as crazy as it sounds. Old broken down Maskaev did it, and is going to defend against Peter Okhello (didn't anyone check if Axel Schultz had come out of retirement first) Valuev is going to defend against Monte Barrett, who'll be inactive for 14 months and coming off a loss at the time, before that he defended against Owen Beck, who Barrett KO'd. Lyakhovich is going to fight Shannon Briggs, who has proved that if you beat up enough bums you will eventually get a title shot. Other than that, Brewster may be finished due to an eye injury, Rahman's probably done as a contender, and the 2 best fighters in the division may be weak jawed Wlad and Fat Toney, who's probably at a lunchtime buffet as I post, so why the hell shouldn't Golota go for it.
Posted: 16 Sep 2006, 21:29
by pundit
Decagon wrote:Ruiz beat Valuev.
No he didn't.
Posted: 17 Sep 2006, 00:23
by BoxBuzz
Decagon are you certain? Your striking his opinion from the "gravitais" of the gestalt forum? Seems a bit heavy handed.
Posted: 17 Sep 2006, 00:36
by pundit
BoxBuzz wrote:Decagon are you certain? Your striking his opinion from the "gravitais" of the gestalt forum? Seems a bit heavy handed.
Decagon's opinion is irrelevant no matter what's the topic.
Follows from the trash-in trash-out principle.
